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PostSubject: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 00:27

It can be done. I do it. Every day. I have a static IP on a cable broadband connection.

I also do it on a second PC so I don't lose my internet connection on my main PC.

*** WARNING ***

If you mess this up, you may (probably temporarily) lose your internet connection. It depends on your ISP, and what exactly you mess up!

If you try this, and mess up your PC or internet connection, it's YOUR problem, not mine. I only posted up this info, you don't have to try it. If you are not confident with computers, you probably should'nt!


*** IN OTHER WORDS - TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK! ***

OK, warning out of the way, onto the guide.

This will allow you to create pupils on a static IP. Not thousands of them like you can on a dynamic one, but a good few. This brute:

http://plunkywunky.mybrute.com/cellule

... is mine and has been levelled up almost entirely by self pupiling on my static IP.

You will need:

1. A PC. If you have a second/spare PC you can use, all the better.
2. Ideally, a direct connection to your modem. You can probably do it with a router, but I've never tried it. This guide assumes a direct connection to the modem.
3. The modem needs to be connected by ethernet. No idea how you would do it with USB - don't even know if it would work.
4. A small piece of software called "macshift". You can get it here: http://devices.natetrue.com/macshift/

To make this work, what we do is force your ISP to allocate you a new IP address.

We do this by altering the MAC address of the network card/connection on your PC. (If you have to use a combined modem/router, you would need to alter the MAC address of the router. It should have the same effect but I have no idea how you do it. If you have a separate modem and router, change the router, it should also have the same effect. I take my router out of the equation when doing this - I'll explain why further down.)

When you power up your modem, it looks at whatever it's connected to (a network card in this case) and checks to see if it recognises it. If it does, it gives it the same IP it had last time it saw it .... because you have a static IP. If it DOESN'T recognise it, it will give it a NEW IP address .... which is what we want for shiny new pupils!

How does it recognise the network card (or router) ? ... It checks the MAC address of it. By running macshift (the software in point 4 above) you alter the MAC address. This fools your ISP into thinking a new computer has just connected up to your modem, and it gives it a new IP. The possibilty exists that you *might* get an IP address thats been used on brute before, but most times, it'll work. My success rate is maybe 85% .... which is pretty good and far better than the 0% you have probably had on your static IP up until now.

So how do we do this?

Follow these steps:

1. Download and install "macshift". Then configure it (follow the instructions on their website and in the README that comes with it .... I can't really explain it any better) so that you have a shortcut on your desk to run it from. This shortcut should be configured within the launch command within it to randomize your network card every time you run it. IF YOU DO NOT CONFIGURE MACSHIFT CORRECTLY - THIS WILL NOT WORK! Obviously, you only need to do this step once.

2. Switch off your modem.

3. Connect the PC you plan to use directly to the modem, via ethernet.

4. Clear cookies on the PC. (I use ccleaner for this)

5. Run macshift via the shortcut you created in order to randomize your MAC address.

6. Power your modem back up and wait for your PC to establish a connection.

7. Pupil away! Each time you reset and get an IP that works (like say they won't ALL work, but most should), you can pupil 2 brutes (NOTE - they need to be 2 DIFFERENT brutes each time. You can't give both pupils on each go to the same brute .... if you do, only the first one will give XP) and will get XP from them. After that, no XP. I tend to clear cookies between the two but I don't think it's essential.

8. Go back to step 2 and repeat.

Thats pretty much it really.

Now, a few extra points (well, more like limitations) to this method.

I can only get away with doing this 3 times in one sitting. After 3 resets my modem will not connect up to any more new devices. I have to wait 2-3 hours before it will establish any new connections, and give me more new IP's. If all 3 work, that means I get 6 pupils total per sitting. Do it 3 times in an evening (6pm, 9pm, midnight) and thats 18 pupils in an evening. Nothing like what I'd get on a dynamic IP (which I'll have soon) but better than zero!

This is also why I don't use my router. After 3 goes, it won't connect to anything NEW ..... but, if I connect it back to my router (which my main PC is connected to) it recognises that as it's seen it before and it gives me my connection back.

After 2-3 hours. I disonnect the router, connect the second PC direct to the modem, and do it all again.

*** THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENS FOR ME. I CANNOT GUARANTEE IT WILL WORK EXACTLY THE SAME FOR YOU! IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOUR ISP WORKS! ***

I have screwed it up and lost my connection to my router once. When this happened, none of my computers would connect to the internet. I had to leave it a couple of hours before it would give me a new IP and I could get back online again. I ASSUME this is how it would work with you. You do this at your own risk. If you lose your connection for more than a couple of hours, you may have to call your ISP to sort it out.

Another thing I seem to have noticed is the randomization string in macshift is not the best. After a while doing just one run of macshift between pupils, I started getting less and less with XP. I've found that if I run macshift 3, 4, 5, 6 etc ... times between each reset, I have better results.

I think thats about it.

It sounds complicated, but once you have it set up and working, it's actually pretty straightforward .... and on a static IP, it's about as good as it gets. I've tried proxies, and they are a nightmare. Slower than this method for me, and far more hassle. It doesn't get me vast numbers of pupils .... it won't create a "jesper.nu" for you, but it can get you to level 10+ pretty damn quickly.

I've explained it in as much detail and as simply as I can. If you are not confident, don't try it!

Feel free to ask questions but I doubt there is much I can add to the above.

Good luck, and remember .......

**** AT YOUR OWN RISK !!!!! ****

Finally, if you would like to thank me for this guide, please pupil this brute and post up the pupil name on here so I don't miss it (a pupil with XP obviously! Razz):

http://bpx011.mybrute.com

Thank you.

I shall finish with an elephant.

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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 00:58

wow a lot of Cautions huh...! but i think its a lot of work Laughing
goodluck with that..
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 02:50

@Bob:
Too risky for me Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 10:08

I know I made a lot of the risk, but I imagine it would actually be pretty hard to kill your connection completely.

At worst, it should drop out for a few hours.

I just thought I'd make the point so I didn't get a barrage of "I broke my internet!!!" posts.

And, as I say, it *sounds* complicated, but once it's set up, it's actually pretty simple to use. Not much more hassle than having to re-boot a modem if you are on a dynamic IP really ....

Some people might get lucky and have an ISP that will continually give them new IP's every time they do it .... I don't know. Mine limits me to 3 runs then I have to wait .... who knows how other ISP's work? Not me!

The term "static IP" is actually a bit misleading in most cases. Most people on a static IP are actually on a leased IP. You are given an IP number (based on your mAC address) and unless this MAC address changes, you'll keep that number. When the lease on your IP is up (mine runs a week at a time), your ISP's DHCP server will check to see what your modem is connected to, if it's the same MAC address, you get the same number again. So, if you leave your modem on 24/7 connected to the same PC, you'll probably always have the same IP. Switch your PC off for a week or so, or connect you modem to a new, or changed, MAC address (which is what this guide does) .... and you
get a new IP.

So it's not truly static. It just looks that way due to the way they are allocated combined with how most people use it.

If you have a SINGLE IP allocated to a SPECIFIC MAC address, this will not work.

However, if you are set up that way, you probably had to ask for it as you're probably running a server or FTP or something where you NEVER want you IP to change. If thats the case, you probably understand how IP addresses work in the first place and won't be trying to do this because you'll understand in advance that you don't want to break your server/FTP ... or whatever.

So, for most people, on what *they* perceive as a static IP, this guide will/should work.

I made the original long and detailed to make sure I covered pretty much everything.

Didn't want to post up some half baked effort and come back to a load of broken internet connections (albeit temporary) or a load of stupid questions because I hadn't explained something properly.

If anyone on a static IP can't be bothered reading it .... I can't say I really give a toss! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 10:51

Changing the MAC address for the PC's network card isn't risky if you're only changing the last two digits of the HEX code for the MAC address. If you're trying to change the MAC address of the modem then you could run into ISP problems should the IP assign usage rights tied directly to the modem's MAC address.

For example: when my broadband was set up, it had to be authenticated using the MAC address for the modem. If I were to replace the modem I would have to call up my ISP and provide them the new mac address before they will even allow me broadband access again as the MAC address is validated with each connection or IP request.

If you change the manufacturer section of the MAC address then the risks get alot higher.
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 11:22

Thats how mine *used* to work.

Your connection was tied to a single MAC address. You changed PC (or even network card) you had to contact the ISP and tell them.

Not any more though, DHCP server as ISP end handles it all automatically now.

Thats why I say be VERY careful with this one. Everyones setup, and ISP will be different.

If you don't understand what you're doing, best give it a miss.

Works for me though .... so I thought it was worth posting up here. :)

Will have a second line soon with dymanic IP .... so I'll probably stop using this method then ...
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 15:14

hopeless attempt

fuck off with edit whoever did it

this is bullshit and this wont work


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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 15:33

riiskop wrote:
hopeless attempt

this guide doesn't work for me, this doesn't change my STATIC IP .

Had to come back and edit it to put this in ....

HTF would you know? You didn't read it in the fist place you said?!?!?!?!?

Go learn how the internet works ... :study: ... and the terminology that goes with it.

Read a couple of posts up from your one. In most cases, a static IP is not TRULY static.

If I go into command line, and release and renew IP, I get the same IP back.

So I have a static (leased) IP.

My guide works. It's why I have a couple of hundred pupils on my main brutes.

If your IP is tied to a MAC address (as HM pointed out) or you have a TRULY static IP (99% of people won't) then this guide won't work.

If you are on a cable modem where release/renew does not get you a fresh IP, and your MAC address is not tied, this will work.

If you doubt that, you're an idiot. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 18:08

Risky for me
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 18:59

yea probably too risky for me to try this...
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 21:26

doesnt sound too risky imo. just try it and at worst you have to give your ISP a call, i dont have a pc connected by ethernet or i'd do it. a lot of things like this seem long when you're reading them but once you have it down without reading anything or thinking about it much i bet it's quick as hell, and if you dont get your internet taken away for a few hours after 3 attempts then you could do this as often as a person with a dynamic IP, wouldnt that be nice.
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSat 30 May 2009, 22:07

Yep too risky lol

Not worth it for my brute lol
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 00:03

ugh iv been trying to self pupil for so long! iv done everything! Sad TO hard for me......
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 11:45

Won't your ISP notice this?
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 14:55

If someone checked the logs on their DHCP server, I imagine they probably would.

Doubt it really makes that much of a difference to them. It's not as is I'm using up a vast chunk of the IP range. I only use and IP for five minutes then release it back to the IP pool.

For all they know, I could have a great big box of second hand network cards I picked up at a car boot sale that I'm slowly testing and selling on ebay ....

Anyhoo, I've created myself several hundred pupils using this method without any complaints from them so it doesn't look like they're bothered. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 14:59

Well, then I'll surely try this method. Just hope I don't mess up. Is it complicated to configure MACSHIFT?
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riiskop wrote:
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this guide doesn't work for me, this doesn't change my STATIC IP .

I see you've changed your original post.

Two possibilities:

1. You did something wrong. Most people fall over at setting up macshift correctly.
2. You are on a TRULY static IP or and leased static IP tied to a single MAC address. As I said in the original post, if thats your setup it won't work.

You clearly STILL don't understand that not all STATIC IP addresses are TRULY static. Yours may be ... I don't know.

What I do know is how my IP address is assigned to me and how I can force it to change .... by using the above guide.

Therefore, not a hopeless attempt ... unlike your attempt to follow it .... if you even did .... given that your initial reaction was that it was too long to read.

My money is on you messing it up somewhere.

In which case ....

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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 15:06

Aaerox wrote:
Well, then I'll surely try this method. Just hope I don't mess up. Is it complicated to configure MACSHIFT?

Not really.

If the instructions on their page make sense to you, you should be OK.

You should end up with a shortcut on your desktop to run it from.

The shortut launch properties for the "Target" field on mine are:

C:\macshift\macshift.exe -r -i "network"

- where "network" is the name assigned to my network card in the device manager.
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 15:09

I have one more question: My PC is not DIRECTLY connected to the modem. The modem is down in the hallway, so I'm forced to use an Allnet adapter.
Thus I don't know if that's a big problem or not.
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It could be.

Whats an Allnet adapter?
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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 15:30

Well, my PC is upstairs and the modem is downstairs. So i have an ethernet adapter, which is plugged in an electric socket in my room and it is connected with my pc. Then there's another adapter downstairs, which is connected with the modem.
Thus, my internet connection comes via electric circuit.

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PostSubject: Re: Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies.   Static IP - Self Pupil - WITHOUT proxies. Icon_minitimeSun 31 May 2009, 15:54

Ah. I see.

This sort of thing?

http://www.homeplugs.co.uk/

Hmmm. I don't know much about those sort of extenders. But, this:

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1101553-post7.html (Whole thread - http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-technical-discussions/113113-where-buy-homeplug-unit.html#post1101553)

Would imply that the device itself has a MAC address.

I *suspect* that it would the MAC address of the Allnet Adapter you would have to change as thats the bit your modem will see. When it sees a different MAC address there, it *should* give you a new IP.

Not sure how you would go about altering the MAC address of the extender though. Is it visible in device manager on your computer? If it is, you could point macshift at it, if it's not, I'm not sure how you'd go about it.

Don't suppose you have a laptop you could take downstairs and connect directly to the modem?

You could always just give it a try and alter the mac address and the network card in your PC and see what happens? Just make sure you check your IP before and after the switch to see if it's worked ....
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Hmmm.

He hasn't come back.

Wonder if he's killed his internet?

I just did another 3 myself. Only 1 worked though. No XP for the other 2 .... must have been IP's already used on mybrute. Sad

Next batch around 8pm GMT ..... :)
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No I haven't killed my internet yet. 🐰 Just have been afk for a while.

Yes, that sort of thing. :)

It looks like it's not in the device manager. In the tab "Network adapters" there's only my "Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller" network card.

But I don't think the adapter has a MAC address itself, because today I got an new IP suddenly, though I used the same adapter. Only difference to yesterday was, that my sister has been connected to the internet and I had to reset the modem to get a connection, too.
But I tried to do this again, I got the same IP. It's really confusing. Razz

Maybe I could use the pc downstairs, but it's reeeeeally old => freakin' slow Shocked

I will just try it now with my network card, because if it really looks at the MAC of the adapter, it shouldn't make any problems, because I don't change the MAC of the adapter.

I will post my results here later on (hopefully lol! ).


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Good luck dude!

Worth a try .... :)

I actually use a pretty old PC when I do my macshifting.

It's an old Athlon XP1600 with 512mb or RAM running XP.

Does the job for that and saves me mucking about with my good PC. :)
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