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PostSubject: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:14

most people say meditation without sang is bad
but i think what works better is shield-contre

i have 2 meditation+shield contre, and i cant notice the-200 init at all

this is not because of the contre but because lower than 35 speed
brutes meditation and lower than 35 speed wont get affected by the -200 init much


i know most will disagree, but im not talking from air, ive studied mybrutes very carefully, and pretty sure of what im saying
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:21

check my red bull shit
grizz i think gave it to me
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:22

how can i know link? smell my bakhand? lol!

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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:24

check ur PM
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:25

so is this a bad muxxu with medi
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:25

i was wondering what happened to that guy lol.


just post fights. im not sure what you mean really.

my onnly meditation+contre brute... it was pretty obvious that he starts slow
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/64308530?chk=d19f
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/63498590?chk=a3e6

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/61346318?chk=6d62
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/62693292?chk=748e

i dont know how to get back to this destiny but im trying
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:37

meditation skill is Suck
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:46

i mean the main thing about meditation and sang chaud is just to avoid the opponent getting 2 free attacks at the start of the fight because they can be devastating.

If you have a shield and counter, or feline agi and untouch, or ballerines... they all serve a similar chance to avoid the original problem of meditation.

How fast your brute becomes after that point is a secondary concern.

If brutes in BL rank can level up forever, I think most people will want meditation at some point because of the extreme stat boost


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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 15:47

medi doesnt suk

and will post fights when fights refresh
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:23

I don't think medi sucks. But you need something to compensate for the bloody thirst of the opponent at the start. And if he has sang chaud urgggggg, pray or get an armor/increvable...

The stat boost is godly indeed. I would be viable with a very good defense. And It would allow somehow to overcome the minus spd of armor and immortal. (dont think about kitty at all XD Very Happy)

For me, the main problem is : what's exactly initiative? and does its impact only last for the start?
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:14

feel free to analyze these fights
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/55869696?chk=951a
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/52289672?chk=4f58
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/53916478?chk=b9bf
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/55675259?chk=d579
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:26

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feel free to analyze these fights
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/55869696?chk=951a
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/52289672?chk=4f58
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/53916478?chk=b9bf
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/55675259?chk=d579

here , your init can be noticed

higher than 35+ speed

but i see in first and last fight when u got the shield at 15-16 its pretty much better than attacking first aint it?
my str queen usually attaks first
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:43

Well I have always compared medit to a diesel engine. You can have a better brute, if you have the third match scenario... you'll get screwed in a tourney. An you have quite a number of sang chaud brutes...
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 19 Sep 2010, 09:01

here!
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/81917019?chk=b783
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/81920187?chk=2b1b


the last 2 fights

i remembered i made this thread when doing the last 2 fights

tommorow ill post 5+ fights, if i remember Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Wed 22 Sep 2010, 23:24

Life sure can be strange : I managed the frappe ecl/sang chaud/medit combo but I still don't have any weapon *fuck*

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/83557517?chk=5ba3

63 spd lvl 9 quite amazing haha but useless with a str of 2

Hoping for the future...
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Wed 22 Sep 2010, 23:58

^ tht brute gets a weapon and "renforts", and something like sai, choc or vandal it would be the perfect back-up brute
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Thu 23 Sep 2010, 00:09

Quote :
Life sure can be strange : I managed the frappe ecl/sang chaud/medit combo but I still don't have any weapon *fuck*

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/83557517?chk=5ba3

63 spd lvl 9 quite amazing haha but useless with a str of 2

Hoping for the future...

Arg, it's her "sister" on this account who has renforts.
If I had at least shuri, I could manage to win some fights...

What's quite funny is that I have a vita brute (kitty), a speedy brute (this one), a str brute (another one you'll discover when she will win her tourney after a very bad subpath !!! Evil or Very Mad ).

I just wait for the agi brute^^. I like it when my brutes jump.
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 09:30

xteenager wrote:
most people say meditation without sang is bad

I took meditation as my first skill just in the hope of extreme luck getting backup on next levelups (which of coursedid not happen...)

I was prepared to my ass kicked a lot because I dont have first strike. But strangelly my brute has no weapons no MA no first strike and she still manages to fight 8-9 fights per day (she is low rank though - finger flicker).
She got Lightning Bolt - which took her speed to 41, but other than that have nothing.

Skills:
Recoinaisance
Vitality
Fists of Furry
Net
Lightning Bolt
6th sense


I dont know how she wins so much. Actually she wins around as many as my flail only brute (apparently only flail isnt enugh to win 10 times a day...). And I have brutes that I would describe as much better than her, still they win less than she does. Does she have some good skill combo or something? Is this just some extreme streak of luck for her or what?

It makes me wonder because I actually declined recoinaisance many times in my other brutes destinies, so maybe I should take this skill even without first strike?


Also - after I take it does it add +150% each time I choose +3speed at levelup or is it a one time thing (if it is one time - then the longer I wait with accpting it - the better my speed gai will be)
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 10:25

which weapons does she have?
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:00

HongKongFui wrote:
which weapons does she have?

NO WEAPONS AT ALL. NO MARTIAL ARTIST EITHER.
That is why it is so strange...

Really not a good brute. And previous rank she was crappy too. Still she wins a lot now that I took recoinaisance.

her destiny:



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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:05

I love that skill!
I always pick oppenents who have it and hardly lose. Razz
Lightning Bolt and Fists of Fury is a good combination with meditation though.

demono3 wrote:
(apparently only flail isnt enugh to win 10 times a day...)
It's enough to win seven times a day if it's a good one. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:09

Rippraff wrote:

Lightning Bolt and Fists of Fury is a good combination with meditation though.

So maybe that is the reason why she is good then?

After ranking up from padavan - she had only 17 victories (I think that she got really lucky ranking at such low level). And now she will soon reach 100 victories at current rank...

That is how she fights:
http://mybrute.muxxu.com/fight/28830640?chk=be88
(lower level brute, but with bear...)


I also usually choose meditation brutes as my oponents and I think I am winning usually, but this brute of mine is just making me re-evaluating recoinasance skill.


Rippraff wrote:

demono3 wrote:
(apparently only flail isnt enugh to win 10 times a day...)
It's enough to win seven times a day if it's a good one. Wink

Well. Actually my flail only brute has tought time fighting more than 7 fights per day. Which came as a shock to me, because I thought flail alone would grant easy victories most of the times. But probably he has no spporting skills. And he has 2 agi... that may be a factor too.
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:13

EDIT:

Next semi-final fight from todays tourney:
http://mybrute.muxxu.com/fight/28842357?chk=5159

and lost at final to trombone guy:
http://mybrute.muxxu.com/fight/28864261?chk=b063
But who wont lose to that weapon :)


Do you think I should keep this destiny then?

And I hope for knife soon :) It is not too rare so I really count on her getting it soon.
Also leek would be so much fun! Although it is verry rare.
(and I dont even dream about amazing trombone...)
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:23

For me it isn't a miracle at all.
demono3 wrote:
So maybe that is the reason why she is good then?
The reason why she's good now is she has a good combination of skills.
Her extremely high health points help her to stand the initiative penalty. After that she will attack a lot and counter attacks with her 6th sense skill. :)

Rippraff wrote:
which came as a shock to me, because I thought flail alone would grant easy victories most of the times. But probably he has no spporting skills. And he has 2 agi... that may be a factor too.
Agility isn't that important as speed. You don't need to hit every strike with the flail. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: meditation.....bad skill   Sun 30 Oct 2011, 11:28

demono3 wrote:
Do you think I should keep this destiny then?
If she's doing that great and you surely have fun seeing her win, of course!

You were lucky your semi opponent picked the club with his ridiculous three speed points. :)
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