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PostSubject: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 11:25

This is the result of an experiment :



I wanted to know how good my strengh brute would be if I tried the hybrid way. (shuri + another weapon)
To be a ninja is somewhat limited and you need at least to have thief/martial arts at some point.
Shuri is interesting because potentially illimited but the more weapons you have the more it will be useless.

Consequently, I decided to try to keep just 2 weapons (in fact I have glaive before shuri so I didn't really have a choice Wink )
The main advantage of this strategy is that "common weapons" have a bigger probability to go out first so she generally starts with the glaive.
Furthermore, I did not totally discard the strengh freak who lives in its body and marteau-pilon can force me to drop my shuri.
In this new path, Seung had sang chaud lvl 12 and it's quite nice to wake up early Very Happy

The first results are quite encouraging with 19-20 matchs a day.

Some matchs from today's tourney to illustrate :
First turn
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/85822613?chk=071e
Second turn
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/85831324?chk=5dbf
Third turn
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/85836993?chk=d0bc

The last guy who beats Seung loses after in final. These matchs are interesting because these brutes are good and thiefs are basically a bad match for her.

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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 11:51

Tama wrote:
The main advantage of this strategy is that "common weapons" have a bigger probability to go out first so she generally starts with the glaive.
I doubt that as it's all random.
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 11:54

not bad for a start at lvl13 Very Happy but the thing with hammer technic realy sucks Sad

but still the idea is bad to have the glaive with sang chaud.
knife or sai would be the perfect 2nd weapon because they increase the speed at the start incredably.

this is my best hyprid Ninja with knife: with 2 diffrent paths:
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/76692686?chk=0079
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/85833784?chk=0639

or ninja with sai:
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/79686874?chk=5bfe

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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 12:33

Rippraff wrote:
I doubt that as it's all random.

You have never read or notice that when you have a rare weapon, let's say halberd, the probability to take it is not the same as the knife ..?

Rico wrote:
not bad for a start at lvl13 Very Happy but the thing with hammer technic realy sucks Sad

Well, I would like to see the hammer technic between 2 shuris but it is not possible. Wink

I agree that a knife or a sai would be more interesting with sang chaud. Nice Ricogirls by the way. :) But I wasn't expecting the sang chaud ability for her^^.

On the other hand the glaive is more defensive, if I have a shield in the future, it could be more interesting. It is just a little kitty who won +3 agility this morning thanks to the tourney.
Quite odd, I wasn't as happy as Xteen in this case :cat:
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 12:38

lol no one can be as happy as xteen when he gets +3 Agility Laughing
and he might party all night long and get realy drunk just for getting Feline Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 12:47

I wonder how would he react for an untouch ability?

Maybe total striptease in Cancun's streets while howling for the whole night, during a nice day of a summer break ? lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 13:39

LOL.

This is not bad provided you get something else to back up the glaive and make it effective. Glaive by itself is pretty boring, but +shield it's much better, +maitre it's way better, +contre it's quite nice and + all three makes you a really great brute. I hesitate to use the term 'ninja' when it has anything but throwing weapons, but clearly the marteau-pilon is worth keeping and if so, you might as well not be a ninja. And if my theory is right that strength increases parry blocking, it could be somewhat effective on its own.

I have a ninja brute who gets flail at level 16, he's a pretty good ninja up to that point but as he advances he runs into more and more brutes who disarm him and beat him. Perfect time to stop being a ninja and become a flail whacker!

Otherwise, I kinda agree with Rico, glaive is not the best second weapon -- either take something that's fast with your sang-chaud or something big with your strength. But I bet it's fun to start with glaive, drop the marteau-pilon, and finish with the stars!
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 14:26

Wow sang chuad + hammer skill is awesome
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Tue 28 Sep 2010, 14:48

Teethy wrote:
Otherwise, I kinda agree with Rico, glaive is not the best second weapon -- either take something that's fast with your sang-chaud or something big with your strength. But I bet it's fun to start with glaive, drop the marteau-pilon, and finish with the stars!

Yeah, she's really fun to play. You could say that she's a means to counterbalance kitty's boredom.
But she's not a model, as you underlined.

For me, she's something like an investment in an internet start-up or a new biotechnology. It's an innovative product but we do not know yet if it's a failure or a revolution.
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Thu 30 Sep 2010, 10:34

Sor far +6 agi in 2 levels but still 20 matchs today.

The art of come back lesson 1:
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/86693988?chk=9fdb

The mighty glaive :
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/86697532?chk=6075
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Thu 30 Sep 2010, 11:17

Tama wrote:
Sor far +6 agi in 2 levels but still 20 matchs today.

The mighty glaive :
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/86697532?chk=6075
i wish MT can explain to us how and when and why the Glaive somtimes behaive this way. and plz no one tell me this is a lucky seed because i see this alot

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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Thu 30 Sep 2010, 13:56

Mighty glaive indeed. The way I understand the 6th-sense counter strike is this: you get a chance to counter a brute's attack as long as your weapon is longer. The 6th sense skill adds 10% to this, so if you have it you have 10% chance of countering attacks with weapons of the same length, and a better chance when you have a longer weapon. This chance is boosted further if you are armed and your opponent is not.

Short weapons are fists, knife, sai, mug, fan, throwing weapons.

Next longer are glaive, mammoth, scimitar, leek, racket, axe, etc.

Longer than that are club, morningstar, pan, flail, hammer, etc.

Longer still are epee, lance, trident, baton, trombone, etc.

Longest weapons are halberd and whip.

In addition to all this, some weapons give specific bonuses to countering. Big bonuses for halberd, whip, baton, trident, lance. Small bonuses for trombone, club, glaive, leek. There is probably a stat that affects it too, most likely speed and possibly agility.

So if you're attacking someone with a halberd and 6th sense, you will almost always get countered. If you have a weapon, that chance gets smaller, and the longer your weapon, the less advantage your opponent has. Steal their halberd and you will counter them when they attack, but not as often if you don't also have 6th sense. (This morning I was in a halberd vs. whip fight, my whip countered once because of 6th sense and the halberd did not counter me at all.)
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Thu 30 Sep 2010, 23:39

This "glaive mastery" was a lucky one even if I had a longer weapon than my opponent.
I agree with Teethy for the whole theory^^.

New choice : Fierce brute vs +3 agi
Sorry to disappoint Xteen but I took the first one. Twisted Evil

The result is quite refined :
Seunghee doesn't give a damn about royalty :
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87128254?chk=703d

Hu? There was a ninja ? Suspect
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87127282?chk=a8d9
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Fri 01 Oct 2010, 00:55

No reason not to take fierce brute with high strength + sang chaud + hammer skill. You can see why from that first fight you posted. Beauty...
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PostSubject: Re: Hybrid ninja   Fri 01 Oct 2010, 10:00

U_U I have just lost the final of poing d'acier.

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87147325?chk=f15c
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87154197?chk=89ad
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87159074?chk=2464
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87163208?chk=1f80
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87184244?chk=6f77

and the final : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/87213961?chk=f2e1
He wasn't extraordianary but my match wasn't perfect too (no pilon which costs me a tourney^^) and his speed was a lot better than mine. Seung doesn't seem to digest well the noodles with the bowl^^.

Sorry for Pdsharpj, I assume the first opponent was his brute. :cat:
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