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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Fri 05 Nov 2010, 14:36

I would draw the last tourney winner first round lol. I only got to move once. Sad

Anyway looks like my pick in the last tourney (adrien) is in the finals once again! This kinda proves that he's the best brute... back to back final appearances...
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Fri 05 Nov 2010, 14:54

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103109465?chk=1711

katgirl wins
so my prediction exact
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Fri 05 Nov 2010, 14:58

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103109465?chk=1711
Kagirl WINS !!!! :cat::cat::cat::cat::cat::cat:
You may not know it but Adrien is a good match for immortals because we have a lot of time to hit him. Increvable is no problem.


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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Fri 05 Nov 2010, 20:24

Immortals don't really have many weaknesses if they're good enough... that's why I'm training a couple pretty nice ones. I think immortals are the key to not just being good, but GREAT in muxxu. I have a nice immortal with shield. If he gets counter it's game over.
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Fri 05 Nov 2010, 21:29

if chuck get vital, over what he has, its game over Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 05:09

hmm katgirl's not so tough

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103367608?chk=e77a

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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 08:29

Congrats! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 09:00

So the 1st DOC it's katgirl...I was expecting that Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 10:03

So now the big question is who the first BL will be.

Judging from past history, it won't be anyone who was "first" to reach any of the previous ranks!
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 14:37

Markus wrote:
So now the big question is who the first BL will be.

Judging from past history, it won't be anyone who was "first" to reach any of the previous ranks!
no reason for this to be true. but from all i know and saw it could be katgirl or hello kitty Twisted Evil
these 2 will wind up at the top 2 of dentist soon

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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 15:42

i think immo is way to win, not untouches in muxxu

so go my chuck!
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 21:29

Brocliande has won today's tourney with victories against Brut4l, Xcpistou and Adrien ! Crazy tortle ! affraid

second turn : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103717903?chk=af7c

1/2 : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103766477?chk=6086

Final : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103777492?chk=8c60

I have said Brocliande, Kruwel and Kitty were Biceps'revelations. First day was for Kru. Second for Brocliande. I hope the third will be mine. :cat:

Today, Kitty was defeated by Foufounaite in a close fight. I simply can't win the tourney when I have to win against Foufou, Noemie, Rush and Adrien in 4 turns.

Congrats to crazy tortle Brocliande and her crazy luck !
I think the logic would have been that she loses the final.
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 21:36

Tama wrote:
Brocliande has won today's tourney with victories against Brut4l, Xcpistou and Adrien ! Crazy tortle ! affraid

second turn : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103717903?chk=af7c

1/2 : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103766477?chk=6086

Final : http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103777492?chk=8c60

I have said Brocliande, Kruwel and Kitty were Biceps'revelations. First day was for Kru. Second for Brocliande. I hope the third will be mine. :cat:

Today, Kitty was defeated by Foufounaite in a close fight. I simply can't win the tourney when I have to win against Foufou, Noemie, Rush and Adrien in 4 turns.

Congrats to crazy tortle Brocliande and her crazy luck !
I think the logic would have been that she loses the final.

i was expecting adrien Shocked affraid
omg shes so lucky
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 23:31

Trident stolen after one dodged hit.
4 attacks blocked over 17
Hasn't been this lucky from Broc, far from it.
Exept this little pugnace hit , without pugnace skill, killing the wolf after he hit here
(Is this a bug or do you get a low % pugnace with barehands or generally ?)

Adrien dodged 2 over 8 attacks (ballerine's one excluded).
Parried 1 ..
With +8 agi/Untouch and Counter/Shield, it's awful.
Making his brute responsible of his own loss, not any luck from Broc.
Exept if barehands give a bonus to touch and/or go though shield. Any information on this ? And on how much agi for 1% dodge ? *persévérant*

But honestly this match makes me wonder on the utilisation of parry and dodge together.
I feel than the dodge's calculation and effect on a hit is made before the parry one.
And if it's so, reduces the interest of getting Untouch with shield/counter to fléau, marteau... and actually make you lose a lot of counter against all the other weapons. Not such a good deal ...

I'm also thinking than if barehands don't add bonus to hit, maybe it's the shield reducing dodge rate looking to this exemple. Making Untouch+Counter/Shield one of the worst combo ever if both this point and the one above are founded.

Waiting some stats and confirmations from veteran players, i'm still such a novice and maybe it's just LaBrute's random factory working here and making this game this ... strange.

PS:Anyone get headache's pills ?
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sat 06 Nov 2010, 23:44

You're thinking too hard. This game is just random sometimes, simple as that.
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 00:00

nice. :) ahaha Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 00:01

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You're thinking too hard. This game is just random sometimes, simple as that.
Thinking can't be too hard. But can make you lose a lot of time Very Happy
Always loved (and still love!) the calculation/theories in games, I'll probably piss of some people being so ... pugnace about it. *Bad Joke Happy Hour*
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 01:05

Maybe Brocliande wasn't lucky. But I'm sure that Adrien was unlucky.
His block and dodge rate were both awful during the match.

I will give you a fight of his training :
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103779409?chk=df8f

See the difference ?

You say something interesting in your analysis :
Caedes wrote:
Exept this little pugnace hit , without pugnace skill, killing the wolf after he hit here

Counter seems to give a little pugnace %. It's not the first time I saw something like this. Hidden bonus.

Caedes wrote:
Exept if barehands give a bonus to touch and/or go though shield. Any information on this ? And on how much agi for 1% dodge ? *persévérant*

Barehands are accurate (a little less than the sai) and relatively easy to block. A brute with counter + shield + flail can block it. And the flail isn't well know for its blocking rate.
Difficult to put numbers on dodge rate. I don't want to write figures for 1000 fights. Razz

I don't think shield reduce dodge rate. We'll see if Punchy gets one^^.

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I feel than the dodge's calculation and effect on a hit is made before the parry one.
And if it's so, reduces the interest of getting Untouch with shield/counter to fléau, marteau... and actually make you lose a lot of counter against all the other weapons. Not such a good deal ...

I don't understand what you mean.

Anyway, parry/dodge is a happy couple. Otherwise, Adrien wouldn't have 3000+ wins.
Basically, dodge and block calaculations are done simultaneously because when you dodge a hit you could have blocked, you immediately ripost.

Heavy weapons are almost impossible to parry. I have heard of a flail being blocked but I have never seen it during a fight. A hammer can be blocked but it's rare.

I like to think too but not feeling like running SPSS for labrute. Too much Math will kill you. lol!

Nice to see a new point of view. :cat::cat::cat:

I would be curious to see your brutes, Caedes. Don't hesitate to post when you'll get a good one or if you need some help.
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 04:36

well about untouchables with shield: i thought about it very long and i had a headache because of it as i was offered counter for one of my untouchables with shield but the other choice was Agility so i went for Agility. but now i kind of regret it.

i think that the dodge % with high Agility is much bigger than the % of blocking but having the shield is not a disadvantage for the dodging %
look here how the scary hits of a panther or with knife can be blocked and dodged in the same time.
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/91208159?chk=b54a
or here against a Ninja brute:
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/90919948?chk=e9b4

i think shield + counter + untouchable would be more scary and very affective than what you think of it as a bad combination. the only requirement for this is at least 25 Agility and a light weapon like sai or knife or shuriken.
P.S in this case Lance or Glaive would not work with this combo inspite of the fact that they are great with counter + shield....
and in my case stone hammer is not good at all for this combo, but with 30 Agi she hardly miss a single hit with it so i can live with that...

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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 06:17

fuck you


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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 11:34

Rico wrote:
well about untouchables with shield: i thought about it very long and i had a headache because of it as i was offered counter for one of my untouchables with shield but the other choice was Agility so i went for Agility. but now i kind of regret it.

i think that the dodge % with high Agility is much bigger than the % of blocking but having the shield is not a disadvantage for the dodging %
look here how the scary hits of a panther or with knife can be blocked and dodged in the same time.
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/91208159?chk=b54a
or here against a Ninja brute:
http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/90919948?chk=e9b4

i think shield + counter + untouchable would be more scary and very affective than what you think of it as a bad combination. the only requirement for this is at least 25 Agility and a light weapon like sai or knife or shuriken.
P.S in this case Lance or Glaive would not work with this combo inspite of the fact that they are great with counter + shield....
and in my case stone hammer is not good at all for this combo, but with 30 Agi she hardly miss a single hit with it so i can live with that...

my new charger have feline+untouch, martial, lance, and contre
hes only 12 hemo
if he gets shield Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Sun 07 Nov 2010, 11:53

http://labrute.muxxu.com/fight/103824678?chk=753b
katgirl fears chuck
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Mon 08 Nov 2010, 17:01

Brocliande winning the tourney this weekend made me sick to my stomach. Congrats to her player and all, but it just confirms to me that the contre skill is completely broken. Not only is it far too powerful and far too common, but it's buggy. There's no reason why it should give "pugnace" attacks when you don't block, or when you dodge. Let me give you this data point: PunchDrunk dodges a lot. A LOT. Right? Know how many times he's made a pugnace attack after dodging? ZERO. Never once. He also gets hit once in a while, and he's never made a pugnace attack after getting hit. Absolutely never. So these extra attacks are coming from contre skill and nowhere else.

And while it's clear that Adrien just had a bad seed, what with not dodging anything and throwing his weapons away, he would have won that fight if his wolf had survived.
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Mon 08 Nov 2010, 17:15

I'll cross my fingers you get increvable, pugnace and then contre. With his stat set up, I think these two countering skills would make punchy nearly unbeatable.
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PostSubject: Re: Dentiste du Chaos   Mon 08 Nov 2010, 17:17

Maybe, but I think Hello Kitty would still beat PunchDrunk. Now if he got herc force, that might make a big difference.
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