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PostSubject: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeSun 28 Nov 2010, 13:13

Hi,

what`s about a fighting league?

we make a season. ! and ranking ! In these league every brute fight against the other brute! over a period of weeks or for longer! The winner of a battle earns 2 pt. . Looser nothing. The seeds are changing every match days and Level of course.

After finishing all fights we got a champion. like the soccer leagues !

If someone are not doing his fights, He get no points!

How does it sounds?

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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 08:59

I had this DREAM for a long time ago!

THis sounds very interesting, but the main problem will be the rulestructure.

I am interested in this league. But we need very good rules.

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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 09:20

my ibm have 666 wins and i dont want to do arena fights Razz
anyway idea is good Wink
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 09:27

Yes, this idea was raised before (when lumi was around) and I liked it :!:

There are lots of issues to discuss on how to make it work, but mainly we need players Razz Who is interested?
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 09:56

Im In
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 11:08

i am would be in, too.

Sev: i think it should be working by simulator ;-)

Maybe every player can choose 1-4 of his own Brutes.

I think to change every match days the seeds and Level (An expample: from 100- up to 800 lvl, would be get a good mix) it might be a benefit for Strength or immortal brutes too.

That could be funny and wondering sometimes about the winner of this matches...

After few times, we will see it on the chart ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 11:14

If you need people, Im always here Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 11:15

I think the idea is great
We can make a structure like the UEFA champions league
Groups, then knockout, but away and home round per leg
IT would be good
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 11:35

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like the UEFA champions league
Groups

hm okay, but then we have a final again. It seems like a tournament too.

but it would be also a possibilty.

My idea was only a league.

But maybe for some other members it sound s also interesting and they have further ideas, too.

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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 11:38

hmm, ok I got it
How about 62 rounds!
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 12:29

I'm in if this would be for played brutes only.
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 12:38

steele11 wrote:
I'm in if this would be for played brutes only.

My idea was TWO leagues!!

One with plaxed brutes or leveled brutes and one league with "dream brutes"

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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeMon 29 Nov 2010, 14:28

lol i once planned a complete structure for a similar idea, but in the time i was going to post it, i had too many exams.

it is in a text data in my laptop , i will search for it and post it soon. if not , i will figure a new one out (main Problem now would be to garantee fairness, the rest is easy)
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeTue 30 Nov 2010, 20:45

Pege wrote:
My idea was TWO leagues!!

One with plaxed brutes or leveled brutes and one league with "dream brutes"


I'm in Very Happy

And maybe the winners from each league face each other in the final!
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeTue 30 Nov 2010, 20:46

That would be great
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeTue 30 Nov 2010, 20:54

it can be 2 leagues and we ply at same lvl so everybody can get in and the last 3 at the end of one season to fall in second league like in football
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 02:00

OK here is My Idea of a fair enjoyable League. it might be complicated for some of you but the complex part is the Moderating.
but please read everything twice before you Feedback, comment or say yes or no.

Restrictions: Any brute, clones are allowed (rule Nr 10- for clones)
everyone must do their Fights or find someone to do them, a DQ is out of the Question. however to make it realistic we could set a Fair rule for not doing Fights later.

Maximum: 16 Entries. (more than this would be too much to handle for the Mods)

Format & Structure:
1- There will be as many Rounds as the Number of Entries in the Season.
2- Each participant fights every other participant twice (which means there are 2 Matches for every Brute each Round against the same Opponent, 1st called Home & 2nd called Away).
3- Each participant gets to choose between 5 choices of fighting lvl against his Opponent in each Round. (100, 200, 300, 400, 500), (here only these 5 lvls can be choosen, for example 101 or 455 are not allowed.)
but we could add 5 more like (150, 250, 350, 450, 550) if all want to.
4- a Match is a 5 seeds Single Elimination.
5- The 1st Match (Home) (5 seeds with a choosen lvl by Entry1)
6- The 2nd Match (Away) (5 seeds with a choosen lvl by Entry2)
7- a Victory is worth 2 points
8- a Tie is worth 1 point
9- a loss is worth 0 point
10- Clones win the Home Match with 3:2 and lose the Away Match with 2:3
11- If more participants have the same Nr of Points we count the Nr of Victories, Ties, Matches and seeds.
12- every Round will take 48 Hours (we could make it longer though)

Format & Structure: (Example for 10 participants):
Spoiler:
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 05:47

That sounds good, i am with you. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 06:33

Good idea. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 07:06

I have several things I would like to add for your consideration:
    1. I think a league should represent the top of our game. At the moment that would mean brutes 200+ to nearly 800. So how about the competition reflects these boundaries and we do fights at 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, or thereabouts?
    2. How about 3 Home fights, 3 Away fights and 3 Neutral fights? The neutral fights spice things up a bit and could be randomly chosen between 200 and 800 each round by the moderator.
    3. The Home and Away fight do not have to be exactly at 200, 300... etc, they could be randomly generated by the moderator to be within a +- 25 range. E.g. Player A chooses their Home fights to be at 300, but the moderator has randomly determined that for those choosing level 300 the fights are to be at 312.
    4. There should not be only one Moderator involved in doing all this.... it's too much (believe me Wink) Pege, myself and Rico could share the load perhaps. I think this would make it manageable.
    5. ... anything else I think of and edit in here :)
    6. We could have two leagues. The 'Junior League' could be brutes who want to fight at levels like: 20, 50, 80, 110, 140, 170 and 200. Or perhaps; 25, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150 and 175.

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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 08:21

'Junior League sounds good Very Happy

LoooL!

All the rules sounds good! I think we must have a try to find out if that will work good or not!

So first round is a prototype Round!

Then we can see which rules must "updated" or canceled.

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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 08:27

The Dice Man wrote:

1. I think a league should represent the top of our game. At the moment that would mean brutes 200+ to nearly 800. So how about the competition reflects these boundaries and we do fights at 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, or thereabouts?
this could be a bad idea because of what happend in (DOOM vs BND). most of the 400+ brutes has no chance against the TOP new IDs like Kn2, Piw, gova..... so you can take out this group of Members because even if they will join they will never enjoy it. and not everyone has a good high lvl brute 200+. so we may take out this Group of Members too. and then who is left to join and enjoy???

The Dice Man wrote:

2. How about 3 Home fights, 3 away fights and 3 neutral fights? The neutral fights spice things up a bit and could be randomly chosen between 200 and 800 each round by the moderator.
this will be an unnecessary more work for the Mods. and i just wanted to eliminate the big factor of Luck due seeking fairness, and a random lvl will raise this factor alot.

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3. The Home and Away fight do not have to be exactly at 200, 300... etc, they could be randomly generated by the moderator to be within a +- 25 range. E.g. Player A chooses their Home fights to be at 300, but the moderator has randomly determined that for those choosing level 300 the fights are to be at 312.
also an unnecessary more work for the Mods. and this conflict with what i had in mind about garanteeing Fairness (remember DOOM vs BND), i wanted to set a Fix lvl so that the Players can use the weakness of the Opponents not having a certain Skill at a certain lvl or their own brutes getting a certain Skill at a certain lvl. and a +/- 25 might raise the Luck factor and eliminate the fairness Goal of 50% / 50% home and Away idea...

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4. There should not be only one Moderator involved in doing all this.... it's too much (believe me Wink) Pege, myself and Rico could share the load perhaps. I think this would make it manageable.
i fear i am so aware of this , that i might suggest in case we start this League, that we stop running the daily tours untill the League is over Wink Razz

i hope you wont be mad about my responds, but your ideas all go Direction --------> Luck Luck Luck. and all what i want to reach is --------> Fairness. so sorry that i disagree with you. i just did not like what happend in DOOM vs BND ; thats all. Wink
and who knows maybe xteen could win with thfpn here Razz
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 09:38

Luck, luck, luck... no! It is more about making the outcome less predictable. For example if I know I'm going to fight thfpn my "Away" are automatically at level 100 since I know that the gova clones are really only pussy cats until level 268! lil dev is another great brute who just sucks until level 174.

In practice (if we go with your rigid structure) everyone will choose a brute who is great at 100. I don't think you will see a lot of our "great" high level brutes in a league like this.
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 10:53

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gova is a pussy before 268
thfpn is a virgin before 268 Razz

thfpn winning tour, Ha nice one
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PostSubject: Re: My Brute fighting league!!   My Brute fighting league!! Icon_minitimeWed 01 Dec 2010, 17:18

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2. How about 3 Home fights, 3 away fights and 3 neutral fights? The neutral fights spice things up a bit and could be randomly chosen between 200 and 800 each round by the moderator.


this will be an unnecessary more work for the Mods. and i just wanted to eliminate the big factor of Luck due seeking fairness, and a random lvl will raise this factor alot.
Randomness is one of the things that creates fairness tbh.
I wouldn't even mention the level range untill the pairings for fights were to be announced.
This way people will sign up with their "best" brutes not knowing their next fight will be either at lvl 100 or 600 (example)

On the topic of "every player should do a home, away and a neutral fight" I like this but brutes have to fight eachother with the same handicap, you can't let a player decide because he'll say "I'll fight you with a lvl difference of 50 because you miss a certain ability, the same doesn't go for my brute so I'll have a better chance at winning"

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4. There should not be only one Moderator involved in doing all this.... it's too much (believe me ) Pege, myself and Rico could share the load perhaps. I think this would make it manageable.
Please do so, if the tourney isn't updated regularly it will most likely die (like certain others) :silent:

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