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PostSubject: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeSun 25 Sep 2011, 19:35

Hello again.

I watched a few fights from french labrute and I saw many people having knife as a weapon. On my brutes I am not choosing any "bad" weapons waiting for this 1-2 good ones, but levelling is hard then, so I wonder is knife considered good at higher levels? It is a fast weapon and can hit a few times... and then some more... so accepting a knife on low levels is a good thing that helps brute win more fights daily.

Can I ask more advanced members to elaborate on pros and cons for knife? What skills add up great with this weapon, which skills should be evaded etc...
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeSun 25 Sep 2011, 22:54

Knife with Master of Arms and First Strike + Meditation is a deadly weapon.
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeMon 26 Sep 2011, 13:51

and the chance to get those 4 at 1 brute is very very low UglyLOL

knife can be a good weapon but just with master of arms

but I don't recomand to you to take it... it isn't so good
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeWed 05 Oct 2011, 18:47

Sabotage + knife - do you think it is a good idea?


i have brute:
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Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Baddestiny

What if I add knife to that?
It gives speed and I think a bit initiative too (or all my brutes that took knife right away when battle start were so lucky to always go first???), and chance of multihits - so higher chance of sabotaging weapons...?

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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeWed 05 Oct 2011, 18:59

scimitar is much better than knife, so it won't be a good idea, but if you want you can try subpaths there
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeWed 05 Oct 2011, 19:24

ilike knife
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeWed 05 Oct 2011, 19:25

I mean i like it, it takes low dmg, but may do 4-5x strike so it can be strong also. your choice, try it out one time
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeWed 05 Oct 2011, 21:05

y2k.Alpha wrote:
I mean i like it, it takes low dmg, but may do 4-5x strike so it can be strong also. your choice, try it out one time

Of course scimitar is much better - a bit better damage, better multihit, better counter and block.

But for my brute scimitar is taken out late in a game (usually) - and it helps killing oponent but it does not help in sabotaging oponents weapons. And knife is usually taken out fast and with my first strike it may (If I am lucky) get 2x damage and then go once more and do 1-2x times damage - that means 3-4 weapons of my oponent are destroyed... At least It is how I imagine this to happen... So I may try choosing knife before scimitar, but I think for now I will explore this path a bit more - and knives are prettty common so there is a chance I would be offered it again soon right? :)

By the way - she just ranked up today :) Scimitar helped a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeSat 08 Oct 2011, 01:12

it is a tricky path, i personly would change it and take a new destiny. but if you choose to explore it, you could try +3 Agi at lvl6 instead of counter because if you will go with the knife , your destiny will be average or a bit above that, but you will need alot of Skills to make it great, which is unlikely to happend Sad

about the knife: (+ good) , (- bad)
- generaly you shouldn´t take the knife without or before Weapons Master at all.
- the knife combind with counter + shield is an OK weapon but not ideal for such type of brutes unless you have many fast and good blocking weapons like the sai or cimeter.
+ it is a very good weapon combind with First Strike, Thief and "Tornado of Blows"
- it can be blocked with the shield easily.
- it can be thrown fast as a single weapon, so it is mostly more effective along with 1 or 2 other weapons.
+ it is the best Speed drainer in the game , very powerfull against opponents with low Speed.
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeFri 14 Oct 2011, 22:04

is scimitar good? i havent seen many brutes using it. How would you rank these with each other: knife, broadsword, scimitar
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeFri 21 Oct 2011, 17:12

IMO the knife is a very good weapon with first strike and weapon master thanks to the speed boost and its wonderful accuracy (best after leek). Nice damages for a offensive weapon.

Scimitar is a little different, the boost in speed is not the same, a little bit less accurate but a better combo rate and a better block rate.
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeFri 21 Oct 2011, 17:40

Tama wrote:
IMO the knife is a very good weapon with first strike and weapon master thanks to the speed boost and its wonderful accuracy (best after leek). Nice damages for a offensive weapon.

Scimitar is a little different, the boost in speed is not the same, a little bit less accurate but a better combo rate and a better block rate.

and higher damage


and the knife can't be easily dodged, but easy blocked :mwé:


btw: Scimitar > knife = broadsword
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeFri 21 Oct 2011, 17:50

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and higher damage
I disagree with this. The knife damage is more affected by the strength stat. And damages # damages/hit. You're bound to come back more easily with a knife. Imo the scimitar is more defensive.

The scimitar is as easily blocked as the knife. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeFri 21 Oct 2011, 17:53

is true that is scimitar is easily blocked, but at damage it is much better
and 2 hiths with scimitar take more damage than 4 with knife mean lady
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PostSubject: Re: Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis   Knife as a weapon - detailed analysis Icon_minitimeSat 22 Oct 2011, 10:53

well from what i see with RicaRica http://labrute.muxxu.com/b/69966 i think that the knife is way better than the scimitar if we consider the damage + multi hits + multi attacks ,
but if i will have counter shield , as tama wrote about the scimitar being more defensive weapon , i would say that scimitar is better overall
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