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PostSubject: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 15:17

Just for fun I want to show all you Immortal-Haters that immortal brutes don't always have super low stats...
Too many people reject a brute instantly just because one of skill !

Stats at level 28: 21/6/4
Stats at level 50: 31/15/6
Stats at level 100: 50/27/14

Of course non-immortal brutes have better stats in general, BUT this brutes stats are actually just as good ( almost atleast ) as lots of brutes without immortal!






So don't be so harsh on all the immortal brutes Razz


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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 15:25

nice brute

looks familiar Razz

You know Im a sucker for an immortal as well
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 15:42

look at this one immortal brute which is a balanced immortal brute.

http://208kaixxpz.mybrute.com/cellule

check him at level 120 :)
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 15:50

Stats are prob low, kuz her HP is low as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 19:32

im sorry but immortal does equal low stats and i will be an immortal hater forever. even if you did find an immortal with good stats i would have to just wonder what could have been without it. those stats you gave at level 100 equal 91 for S/A/S, i have axs115 and she had really good stats but nothing amazingly over the top and at level 100 her S/A/S = 155. thats a 64 point skill gap and it really shows in the higher level fights, i ran 1 sim fight and it went exactly how they all go when a decent brute fights an immortal brute at high levels:

http://labrutetools.fr.nf/sdcs-on.php?seed=&brutea1=axs115&bruteb1=cookieshop&niveaua1=100&niveaub1=100&languea1=mybrute&langueb1=mybrute&brutea2=&bruteb2=&niveaua2=&niveaub2=&languea2=labrute&langueb2=labrute

sry, not trying to be a dick or hating on you, i just hate immortal with a fiery passion. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 19:34

yeah nice brute ;]
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Fri 21 Aug 2009, 21:09

@Dicklips
True that CookieShop don't stand a chance against axs115 at level 100 and there is a huge differance in terms of stats. But axs115 is really on of a kind, you don't see brutes with stats like that all the time. An average ( random ) brute got like Agi+Speed+Strength = 90-120 ( Which actually is about the same sats as CookieShop, even if she is an immortal brute). But you got a point because people who bring their brutes to level 100 dont got "random" brutes.
Anyway, i just ran a few fights with axs115 Vs. CookieShop at level 50 instead ( level 50-60 seems to be CookieShops optimal level ) and CookieShop won 7 of 10 fights with random seeds. Worth to mention tho is that axs115 is good at level 50, but her "optimal" level seems to be 80-90.

Conclusion: Well, I think stats will become more and more important at higher levels. A great brute with immortal actually seems to have an advantage at lower/mid levels, but at levels 100+ it's probably impossible to find an immortal brute that can perform really well. The stats just becomes too important.


Immortal brutes are underrated in my opinion, they can still be great at higher levels! :)
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 10:43

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but at levels 100+ it's probably impossible to find an immortal brute that can perform really well.
http://ashaokht6.mybrute.com :tongue:


though I think you wont find a better immortal, he would be better without it Wink
Yes, they can be great in higher levels, as you see, but then they are always better without



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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 11:57

OmgWhatABrute wrote:
Just for fun I want to show all you Immortal-Haters that immortal brutes don't always have super low stats...
Too many people reject a brute instantly just because one of skill !

Stats at level 28: 21/6/4
Stats at level 50: 31/15/6
Stats at level 100: 50/27/14

Of course non-immortal brutes have better stats in general, BUT this brutes stats are actually just as good ( almost atleast ) as lots of brutes without immortal!

Spoiler:
 

So don't be so harsh on all the immortal brutes Razz
Oh, No.. You won't...
Because I think Your brute is Strength Focused...
And His HP is Half Equal to fotum...

Because I have such brutes (almost same with you)... but I think She is Speed Focused....
I don't have Immortals If they have good skills/weapons later... Or Having The Immortal Combos.. (Immortal + Vitality + Extra-Thick-Skin + Armor + Shield) like this brute at level 10 (http://juitelan.mybrute.com/cellule)
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 12:58

OmgWhatABrute wrote:
Conclusion: Well, I think stats will become more and more important at higher levels. A great brute with immortal actually seems to have an advantage at lower/mid levels, but at levels 100+ it's probably impossible to find an immortal brute that can perform really well. The stats just becomes too important.

100% agree with this.

Some immortals at low-mid levels can be really good/annoying (depening whether you are their owner or their opponent).

See: Piston Naga, Fortum and Wintershine (which is why I bought that one off you ... lol)

Wintershine seldom goes out of the tourney to anything expect a high level brute. (eg. Today it was 10 ZIZOU 10)

But at high levels, I agree, it's rare that an Immortal will do well. RG's current one (mikesin47) is one of the best I've seen at high level as it has the key components (high strength, decent weaponry, sabotage AND impact and a CRAZY amount of HP) that give an immortal half a chance against the high stat brutes.

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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 13:18

the best IMMORTAL BRUTE for me is this one 208kaixxpz the BALANCED IMMORTAL!

MIKESIN47 VS 208KAIXXPZ
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 13:32

kaixxpzs wrote:
the best IMMORTAL BRUTE for me is this one 208kaixxpz the BALANCED IMMORTAL!

MIKESIN47 VS 208KAIXXPZ

Nice, high stats for an immortal.
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 14:38

what do you guys think about this one at lvl 120? http://d1abl026.mybrute.com/cellule
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 14:43

D1abl026 wrote:
what do you guys think about this one at lvl 120? http://d1abl026.mybrute.com/cellule

Well, it's not immortal (not by lv120 anyway) so I'm not really sure what it has to do with this thread ... Wink

But, at 120, it's not bad. Not mega-spectacular best-of-the-bunch type brute, but pretty decent. Above average in most of the right places and decent selection of skills.

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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 14:51

i have one brute that gets immortal at lvl 24 or 25, killahbeez is its name, but i dont think hes that good Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 14:53

D1abl026 wrote:
i have one brute that gets immortal at lvl 24 or 25, killahbeez is its name, but i dont think hes that good Rolling Eyes

If you are looking for a good immortal, ive got a few you may like. Just PM me Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 14:57

kaixxpzs wrote:
the best IMMORTAL BRUTE for me is this one 208kaixxpz the BALANCED IMMORTAL!

MIKESIN47 VS 208KAIXXPZ

well considering that your brute is level 1 and mine is actually level 99 right now

your simulation means absolutely squat

mikesin is a brute that is actually played and not just created looking for the "perfect" brute

http://mikesin47.mybrute.com/cellule
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 15:01

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kaixxpzs wrote:
the best IMMORTAL BRUTE for me is this one 208kaixxpz the BALANCED IMMORTAL!

MIKESIN47 VS 208KAIXXPZ

well considering that your brute is level 1 and mine is actually level 99 right now

your simulation means absolutely squat

mikesin is a brute that is actually played and not just created looking for the "perfect" brute

http://mikesin47.mybrute.com/cellule

well i didnt say anything about the simulation?
i just putted the link there and said that 208kaixxpz is a balanced immortal brute.
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 15:17

yeah I took it kinda personally as he is my main brute
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 15:34

See This, redneck.

May be you'll calm down.

Your main beated my main in his level.
My bsc20 is a normal (a bit over average) brute.

Mikesin47 is so strong and duration brute. Very Happy
My bsc20 feel like figthing the mountain.
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 17:11

redneck-giant99 wrote:
yeah I took it kinda personally as he is my main brute

i understand redneck PEACE BRO! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 23:19

http://brutetools.netii.net/english/simulateur.php?nombrutea1=junkpunch1&levela1=150&nombruteb1=&levelb1=&nombrutea2=208kaixxpz&levela2=150&nombruteb2=&levelb2=

Don't be dissing my boy RG!

BTW, this was also his brute that he found, but he was nice enough to help me out. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sat 22 Aug 2009, 23:27

slap actually found him and I got junk from him last week.

I dont have time for so many brutes, so I figured that I would let another member manage him....

junk was a weee brute this morn and is level 30 now and will continue to grow

Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sun 23 Aug 2009, 00:55

mantis33 wrote:
http://brutetools.netii.net/english/simulateur.php?nombrutea1=junkpunch1&levela1=150&nombruteb1=&levelb1=&nombrutea2=208kaixxpz&levela2=150&nombruteb2=&levelb2=

Don't be dissing my boy RG!

BTW, this was also his brute that he found, but he was nice enough to help me out. :)

Nice! .... for an Immortal, very nice!

Hope to see that one heading in the direction of a DOOM clan sometime soon! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Immortal does not always equal low stats !   Sun 23 Aug 2009, 01:09

BTB

that was part of the deal......


you see mikesin hit 100 today

I was super stoked to have a level 100 brute

she hit 1263 HP as well Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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