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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 05:49

4000 is pretty good for me
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 07:04

4000? What about 3500? Then I'd join this Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 09:47

4000 hp + immortal
300 st + implacable
300 ag + untouchable

how bout that??
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 11:51

ALPHWON wrote:
4000 hp + immortal
300 st + implacable
300 ag + untouchable

how bout that??

4000 hp + immortal is fine since you can't do it without immortal, but adding skill requirements to the other is unnecessary cause it's not like you HAVE to have a skill to get 300 str or agl
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 12:42

I can make the 4000...Barely

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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 14:18

I only have an immortal with 3970hp....
so please donĀ“t make it with 4000 :cry:
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 14:34

4000 immortal
300 strength
300 agility

sounds pretty good

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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 15:28

4000 immortal i say
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 15:34

i'd say 4000 hp immortal with 1% tolerance Wink

no, why should we raise up hp that high for immortals? the higher, the weaker they are.

look @ http://ashaokht6.mybrute.com/cellule he is a really strong immortal & has 3200 hp
http://oontack.fr/brutes/combats/index.php?brute_1=ashaokht6&langue_1=mybrute&langue_2=mybrute&brute_2=illmove14&niveau_1=500&niveau_2=500&seed=

or http://crator273.mybrute.com/cellule with 2066 hp
http://oontack.fr/brutes/combats/index.php?brute_1=Crator273&langue_1=mybrute&langue_2=mybrute&brute_2=illmove14&niveau_1=500&niveau_2=500&seed=

why don't we say 3000 hp?
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 15:51

3000 HP+
300 + Strength
300 + Agility

Keep it all in the threes Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 15:57

(ot: you still have to post your fights in 200-500 tourney @robby Wink)
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Fri 16 Oct 2009, 16:03

harpyieklein wrote:
(ot: you still have to post your fights in 200-500 tourney @robby Wink)

Im in school and only get little 5 minute breaks, so i will post during lunch in about an hour and a half.
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Sat 17 Oct 2009, 03:31

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i'd say 4000 hp immortal with 1% tolerance Wink

no, why should we raise up hp that high for immortals? the higher, the weaker they are.

look @ http://ashaokht6.mybrute.com/cellule he is a really strong immortal & has 3200 hp

remember the rule says, 3000hp OR immortality by lvl500. so that brute should qualify rite?
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Sat 17 Oct 2009, 06:25

you should make this tourney like sum kinda muliti team tourney like keep your origonal idea e.g A "Team" consists of 3 brutes, each team must have an agility, a hp AND a strength brute with the minimum requirement stat like whats yous are doing now. and each brute in each team must be 3 unique players only e.g 3 unique users- ips whatever...almost reminds me of marvel Vs capcom ^^"

itll be just like world of warcraft! e.g lf1m str 2vs2 ..or lf2m ...hp and ag 3vs3
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Sat 17 Oct 2009, 09:08

harpyieklein wrote:
i'd say 4000 hp immortal with 1% tolerance Wink

no, why should we raise up hp that high for immortals? the higher, the weaker they are.

look @ http://ashaokht6.mybrute.com/cellule he is a really strong immortal & has 3200 hp
http://oontack.fr/brutes/combats/index.php?brute_1=ashaokht6&langue_1=mybrute&langue_2=mybrute&brute_2=illmove14&niveau_1=500&niveau_2=500&seed=

or http://crator273.mybrute.com/cellule with 2066 hp
http://oontack.fr/brutes/combats/index.php?brute_1=Crator273&langue_1=mybrute&langue_2=mybrute&brute_2=illmove14&niveau_1=500&niveau_2=500&seed=

why don't we say 3000 hp?

I have thought about the 3000+ or 4000+ hp threshold quite a bit and I think I will end up going with 3000+. Here are some considerations:

1) 3000 hp is high already when you compare it to your average agility brute or strength brute with hp's usually around 1400 or so. So 3000+ satisfies the "high" hp concept of this tournament I believe.

2) I think what makes it hard when considering hp brutes is the wide variation in hp they actually have. I skimmed through the Immortal Tournament sign-ups thread and wrote down the hp (at level 500) of the first 25 Immortals I came upon. The least had an hp of 3002 the highest was 6242. 10 of these brutes were between 3000 and 4000 hp. The average hp of these brutes was 4426.

While a 3000 hp brute vs a 4000 hp brute can be a close encounter that usually isn't the case with a 3000 hp vs a 5000 or 6000 hp brute. The 3000 hp brute has a big advantage. Hence I think some of us with the higher 4000+ hp brutes are not so keen to see the 3000 hp brutes in the contest. However, this tournament is more about comparing hp vs agilty and hp vs strength and strength vs agility. Is it so obvious that 3000 hp brute will do better against an agility or strength brute than a 5000 hp brute? I don't think so and maybe a 4000 hp brute is better than both at being competitive with other styles.

3) To downplay the possible inequities associated with one Immortal vs another Immortal in the contest I am considering introducing a tiered scoring system each round. It will be easy to understand and will probably be:

Immortal vs Immortal, 1 point for a win
Strength vs Strength, 1 point for a win
Agility vs Agility, 1 point for a win
All other combinations, 2 points for a win
A loss scores 0 points

Rounds would be out of 30 points (6 fights at 1 point each add 12 fights worth 2 points each) and this also reduces the chance of needing any tie-breaker fights I think.

This also means nobody has to find a high stat Immortal in the 3000 range to be competitive. It may turn out that such Immortal brutes are the best to have all round, but maybe not. Personally, my 4300 hp brute seems to do better than my 3300 hp brute a lot of the time.


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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Sat 17 Oct 2009, 09:12

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you should make this tourney like sum kinda muliti team tourney like keep your origonal idea e.g A "Team" consists of 3 brutes, each team must have an agility, a hp AND a strength brute with the minimum requirement stat like whats yous are doing now. and each brute in each team must be 3 unique players only e.g 3 unique users- ips whatever...almost reminds me of marvel Vs capcom ^^"

itll be just like world of warcraft! e.g lf1m str 2vs2 ..or lf2m ...hp and ag 3vs3

Nice idea, but we could try this out another time I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Sat 17 Oct 2009, 09:35

The Dice Man wrote:
underestimated09 wrote:
you should make this tourney like sum kinda muliti team tourney like keep your origonal idea e.g A "Team" consists of 3 brutes, each team must have an agility, a hp AND a strength brute with the minimum requirement stat like whats yous are doing now. and each brute in each team must be 3 unique players only e.g 3 unique users- ips whatever...almost reminds me of marvel Vs capcom ^^"

itll be just like world of warcraft! e.g lf1m str 2vs2 ..or lf2m ...hp and ag 3vs3

Nice idea, but we could try this out another time I think.

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Excellent, i look foward to it then =)
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 06:40

I think I'll invite sign-ups as soon as BE has cleared and we can check which brutes we want to use. Oontack only works for me on brutes I have very recently simulated; that is the same for everyone I guess!?
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 06:50

yes...
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 17:20

lets get the partay started!
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 19:02

So is the immortal cut-off at 3000 now?

You should also up the strength threshold to 300 to prevent from hyper-strength/agility brutes from entering. This will keep it strictly strong brutes!
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 20:15

he did robby he just didn't update the first post, so you have to read through the whole thread to know Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 21:00

Sign-ups will be open in a new thread after I get home from work today......get ready! Bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Mon 19 Oct 2009, 21:02

Can you please update the original thread so I know what to look for.

Thanks Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Agility vs Strength vs HP Tournament at level 500   Tue 20 Oct 2009, 01:29

Yaboirobby wrote:
Can you please update the original thread so I know what to look for.

Thanks Very Happy

I've updated the original post so start looking.... I'm home in about 5-6 hours so look for the sign-up thread shortly after that.
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