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PostSubject: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:24

Ok in my short time on this site I have heard 2 of the Mods being accused of stealing accounts.
Kiwiman brags openly about running a password cracker and then openly sells the brutes in the Marketplace.
Silverberg apparently has stolen his main brute Kikiam, when confronted by the person he stole from on the chatbox, he immediately logged out, leaving no doubt in this. He was asked what Kikiam means, apparently it has some meaning for the original owner and I think Silverberg should have to explain this.
Jill, you seem great, not sure why your involved with these people. Nothing bad I can say about you.

Far as the VIP, it seems to stand for Very Important Prick. Easy status to get if you can provide the Admin/Mods with pupils or some other service. If your not Foreign or in some way sucking ass, well then your not very important at all. This site has potential to be the best American mybrute forum, but your blowing it badly by putting people like this in control.


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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:35

Plus rep on this topic!


yeah i saw that too on the chat box

Hallowcreep was yelling @ Silverberg!

yet silverberg logged out

and too sad to say this my friend u need to explaine

@ALL please understand this kind of simple words " All of us here are balanced"

no admin nor mod should act like they are the king thats Bul$*** no offence huh

@the links damn! they cant win to our forum

well we have the most registered user,most active members,most posted forums and best of all.. most friendly forum ^^
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:36

I'm kind of speechless.
I'll leave this to Kiwiman and Silverberg to explain.
I can't really defend them until the facts you have reported are proven wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:39

You were right, the links were not appropriate, they are removed.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:41

just put them so members could compare the sites ^^

EDIT: (Double Post::_Jill)
wooot ok ok!
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 17:01

I was kinda wondering about this too...
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 17:04

lets leave them and wait them to explaine before we think any other stupid thoughts in your minds
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 17:27

woah, what happen?

One thing for sure that we are against stealing accounts in this forum. So, im going to wait until the accused explain themselves before take any action.

@VIP
These group are mainly for scripters.

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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 17:53

Woah, I really can't think what's really happen here...
I just hope that this case will be solved immediately....

LilJazzY052 wrote:

@ALL please understand this kind of simple words " All of us here are balanced"
no admin nor mod should act like they are the king thats Bul$*** no offence huh
Agreed, Liljazz! We're all the same human after all.... Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 17:55

Stealing acct's is totally out of line, esp if done by those who are in charge of the board.
To go on and openly boast about it, and sell them for profit is somehwat worse, esp. seeing
as the Admin of this very board's char has been stolen.

As for scripting, Im 50/50 against it, kuz to me, it seems like it comes with the terratory.
The games been out for a year and scripting/creating bots just seems the norm for this
game as many gamers utilize them to build their chars. However, I do agree that the hackers
need their own forum or subforum where they can discuss thosse things without affecting
those who want to play the game fair, and such forum does exist, but needs to be advertised
more on the main page of this forum.

Until MT can come up with a full fledged plan on eliminating bots/scripts, the hackers will
not be going any where any time soon, sad to say.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 20:18

fyi, feel free to report to me if any of the moderator abuses their power, please send me a link for the proof (or a screenshot of chat log, msn convo, etc).

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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 20:30

I don't know who's right but give spiritual support to the OP.
I believe he is done with the best of intentions.

Mods should be a model so we expect higher for their behaviour.
If they lose trusts of the members, perhaps it's a good idea to step down for forum sakes.

Let's take it seriously and investigate it.
Perhaps wolf can provide more evidence to support your claims, so admin can take further action if necessary.

BTW what specials about VIP? Apart from a different title and differently colored name I don't see any difference.
VIP seems to be only for bragging rights. They don't have special rights, so you may care less.


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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 20:37

Gem Star wrote:
Until MT can come up with a full fledged plan on eliminating bots/scripts, the hackers will
not be going any where any time soon, sad to say.

Sad but true, cheating becomes part of the game. Too many people like to cheat to win. Many games suffer some degree of cheating.

If we can't change others, change ourselves.
Forget about competing for the top rank in the game
Forget it! Leave this for the cheaters.
Simply compete with people you know who don't like cheating.

On a small scale play with known friends. Compete with friends and have great fun.
On a large scale, we may make use of facebooks, forums etc. to group fair players together to play.
We can arrange some user-designed tournaments, compete with fair players and have good fun.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 20:59

okay let get this straight.

I have never cheated at this game ever and will never succumb to the level of people who take games that seriously.

I have not stolen any accounts at all.

also i have never abused my powers in any way. i barely use them atm since most of you are honest and good people.

so about my one account kikiam.
I did not steal it. and about me leaving early i asked what hollowcreep was talking about because i did not steal the account since i made it. Also @ the person who said I didn't know what it was, I do know what kikiam means. Its a food, ground pork and vegtables wrapped in bean curd sheets and fried. Its one of my favorite foods, I love foriegn foods.

So any more questions and I'd love to answer them, but dont judge me.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 21:09

I personally have no evidence, was simply in the chatbox when it occurred and wanted it cleared up. I did send a PM to Hollowcreep requesting him to come to this thread and clarify. I have however heard Kiwiman many times bragging in threads and on chatbox about his password cracking conquests. He is my bigger issue, in my opinion he is the current owner of Fotum (I cannot back this up), but thought it odd the day after he was demoted the demoter was hacked by a password cracker he brags of owning, not rocket science.
Silverberg if I was wrong I apologize, just wanted it explained, which you've done. Hopefully Hollowcreek will come and clarify.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 21:14

ya well i wanna hear what he has to say because i dont even know why he would say that i stole his friends account?
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 21:17

thanks for responding, Silver. We'll wait for Hollowcreek's respond on this.

@KiwiMan
someone pm me and brought this attention to me,
How did KiwiMan managed to own SEVEN level.11 brute ?
he is selling them here: http://mybrute.forumotion.com/marketplace-f4/level-11-brute-sale-t674.htm

whereas, all his personal brutes are below level.10
lvl.5 http://onehitted.mybrute.com/cellule
lvl.8 http://kiwiman.mybrute.com/cellule
lvl.3 http://kiwiman-ii.mybrute.com/cellule

kiwi ?

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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Sun 26 Apr 2009, 21:19

also about this topic, i know how it feels to lose an account, I had one of my bear accounts taken when in a trade with someone from this forum who does not visit any more.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 01:28

Well hmm in that care you berg.. u dont steal or hacked or have that account that Hallowcreep's been talking about?
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 01:37

i have the account. but i made it.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 02:02

hmm according to the side of hallow
he said thats his friends account that u hacked

but before i insult someone to injury lets wait for hallow
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 03:04

let's hear both side story and decide. unless there is enough evidence to judge.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 03:38

how shit sou? blub!! o.o',
first time hearing mods hacking :O
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 04:06

Yes, I hack brutes.
Im not going to lie about this, but serriously if your brute manages to get his by my cracker (my cracker only uses 312 of the most common passwords) just tell me the old password on it and ill happily give it back.
Really unless you have picked a stupid, common password your safe.
Ill post the 312 passwords that are on my cracker so you can simply not use those passwords.
Right now im trying to crack back fotums main brute "fotum" sofar no luck.
Yes i crack brutes but honestly if your brute gets cracked and you provide the old password ill give it back.
I have lists of all the cracked brutes and old passwords, sorry if your against me cracking.
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PostSubject: Re: MODERATORS=HACKERS? READ!!!   Mon 27 Apr 2009, 05:00

I don't think that someone having an easy password justifies you STEALING from them. Your logic there is wrong. Your signature says "Play with Honor" is that a joke?
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