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PostSubject: Which is the best brute in .com?   Mon 19 Apr 2010, 22:01

i wanna know witch is the best not wich has the highest level
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 04:04

probably http://vortex-maria.mybrute.com/cellule imo :)
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 05:13

For me: http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule at target level > 450.

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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 06:09

tell me a lvl and i will tell you
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 07:43

Sioc wrote:
For me: http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule at target level > 450.

if the question is, which is the best, there is no for me, it's obvious, that kn2-oicbuu6j IS the best brute out there in the relevant range > 450, @ > around lvl 1300 there are better ones again Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 07:59

Sioc wrote:
For me: http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule at target level > 450.

same here, but harpy already cleared out... there is NO best brute at every level...

for me it's: devision- clone is the best up to level 450 (from level 180 up)
then kens new almost dream brute up to 1200 or so and at higher levels harpys gova comes out :)
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 08:45

HongKongFui wrote:
Sioc wrote:
For me: http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule at target level > 450.

same here, but harpy already cleared out... there is NO best brute at every level...

for me it's: devision- clone is the best up to level 450 (from level 180 up)
then kens new almost dream brute up to 1200 or so and at higher levels harpys gova comes out :)

yes, that's it....

devision & this hypnobrute dominate reachable levels...
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 09:13

so http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule is the best at lvl 200-500 but after lvl 1000 there are better brutes
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 09:15

yes does anyone think he will get to lvl 450?
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 09:17

actually he will his delay is 1 i reckon hes so fast
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 09:19

tuf&ruf wrote:
so http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule is the best at lvl 200-500 but after lvl 1000 there are better brutes

no! up to lvl 328 kn2 doesn't have untouchable & up to lvl 450 http://devis1on.elbruto.es/cellule is better

between lvl 450 & 1200 (around) http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule is the best brute there is
(if you gave it survival & thief and taken away cry of the damned & human hammer, you would have had the best brute there could have been)
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 13:17

Hahaha: kn2-oicbuu6j vs. vngrxcas

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 13:49

imo its hard to say "this is the best brute"

you need to fight every possible seed and fight to say if a brute is the best.
just an example: Brute A wins against B. Brute B wins against C. Brute C wins against A.
all at the same seed.
so which brute is now the best Very Happy ?

this game just depends on luck. those stats and specials are just a guideline.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 14:58

PreGod wrote:
Hahaha: kn2-oicbuu6j vs. vngrxcas
Laughing

Just a matter of seed...:

http://labrutetools.fr.cr/popsim.php?brutea=kn2-oicbuu6j&domainea=mybrute.com&domaineb=mybrute.com&bruteb=vngrxcas&seed=30154&lvla=1200&lvlb=1200&submit=+++++Simulation
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/popsim.php?brutea=kn2-oicbuu6j&domainea=mybrute.com&domaineb=mybrute.com&bruteb=vngrxcas&seed=4604202&lvla=1200&lvlb=1200&submit=+++++Simulation
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/popsim.php?brutea=kn2-oicbuu6j&domainea=mybrute.com&domaineb=mybrute.com&bruteb=vngrxcas&seed=2591205&lvla=1200&lvlb=1200&submit=+++++Simulation
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/popsim.php?brutea=kn2-oicbuu6j&domainea=mybrute.com&domaineb=mybrute.com&bruteb=vngrxcas&seed=2656685&lvla=1200&lvlb=1200&submit=+++++Simulation
etc.

Ideally you should run as many fights as there are distinct seeds between each of the 999'999*(999'999-1)/2 distinct pairs of opponents (about 5 billion) in order to generate each probability of win and find the brute with the highest sum of probabilities... this would give the *real* best brute *on average* (i.e. it may not be the best against hyper-strength or hyper-agis, but the best against all brutes overall) at a given target level... but of course this would be very CPU intensive and require days of CPU crunching for a single target level... (but after the Search Engine that may be the next ultimate challenge! - I won't embark into that...)

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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 15:07

exactly, it's not the brute with the highest agi, it's the brute which stands against the most brutes @most seeds, therefore hypnosis & high enough strength is essential.

so we have a str & agi brute with 4 pets & hypno & not too many supers, it really SHOULD be the best brute. it's only the missing survival which could make it struggle...


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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 15:07

http://dimluafmpwg.mybrute.com/cellule

For about level 300 and higher

basically an ozqotivtnoob clone, i cant see any better brute than this
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 15:14

NixxxoN wrote:
http://dimluafmpwg.mybrute.com/cellule

For about level 300 and higher

basically an ozqotivtnoob clone, i cant see any better brute than this

well, it's a very good brute (bitchy found it first - hkf) but i doubt it's the best, cause:

it's missing bolt of lightning/vitality & hypno & a 4th pet and it has deluge, which for an agibrute is bad, cause it would inflict more damage in a regular attack
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 15:19

I know all that. This it what I wanna say! I think there is no best brute! There are quite a lot of very strong brutes. They all will win again each other. All depends on level and seed!
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 15:21

vollaufdienuesse wrote:
imo its hard to say "this is the best brute"

you need to fight every possible seed and fight to say if a brute is the best.
just an example: Brute A wins against B. Brute B wins against C. Brute C wins against A.
all at the same seed.
so which brute is now the best Very Happy ?

this game just depends on luck. those stats and specials are just a guideline.

the best brute is that one which inflicts enough damage to kill the most brutes @most seeds, before getting killed Wink...

so the best brute has to have maximum pets & hypno - best shields

has to have a high str & agi combination

full 2nd & 3rd row & as few supers as possible to cast hypno as often as possible...

this ideal brute doesn't exist among the 999.999 brutes, so it's about finding the closest to it.

if it's not http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule then it's a brute with lower agi & survival or higher strength or such...
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 15:48

bobthebear253 ....

(My criteria for best is number of losses at 20h ..... no other brute comes close!)

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 16:12

harpyieklein wrote:
NixxxoN wrote:
http://dimluafmpwg.mybrute.com/cellule

For about level 300 and higher

basically an ozqotivtnoob clone, i cant see any better brute than this

well, it's a very good brute (bitchy found it first - hkf) but i doubt it's the best, cause:

it's missing bolt of lightning/vitality & hypno & a 4th pet and it has deluge, which for an agibrute is bad, cause it would inflict more damage in a regular attack

Actually deluge is good because it always attacks the opponent brute, not the pets, and with a normal attack you have a lot of chance to waste an attack against a pet.

Hypno is not so good because its used very rarely so not having this skill is not very important.

Its much better to not have bolt of lightening and vitality rather than not having Herc strenght and feline agi, and you can't have all of them

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One thing is sure: agility is broken at this game -.-
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 16:20

NixxxoN wrote:
harpyieklein wrote:
NixxxoN wrote:
http://dimluafmpwg.mybrute.com/cellule

For about level 300 and higher

basically an ozqotivtnoob clone, i cant see any better brute than this

well, it's a very good brute (bitchy found it first - hkf) but i doubt it's the best, cause:

it's missing bolt of lightning/vitality & hypno & a 4th pet and it has deluge, which for an agibrute is bad, cause it would inflict more damage in a regular attack

Actually deluge is good because it always attacks the opponent brute, not the pets, and with a normal attack you have a lot of chance to waste an attack against a pet.

Hypno is not so good because its used very rarely so not having this skill is not very important.

Its much better to not have bolt of lightening and vitality rather than not having Herc strenght and feline agi, and you can't have all of them

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One thing is sure: agility is broken at this game -.-
I agree with you but since most people go for agi brutes it's the other way around, you got a hyper agi scratch brute so you want to keep your weapons, with deluge you waste a good bunch of them so it's not necessary, with hypno you lose nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 16:39

NixxxoN wrote:

One thing is sure: agility is broken at this game -.-
right, on the other things you're wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 17:18

harpyieklein wrote:
NixxxoN wrote:

One thing is sure: agility is broken at this game -.-
right, on the other things you're wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 17:40

harpyieklein wrote:
NixxxoN wrote:

One thing is sure: agility is broken at this game -.-
right, on the other things you're wrong.

So you suggest that speed/bolt of lightening are a must and BoL/Vitality is better than HS/FA? No, just no.

The only way oz/dimu can be improved is by adding one more dog and adding vitality, but seriously I dont think adding hypno will make them SO MUCh better as hypno is a very very rarely used skill...
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