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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 18:01

NixxxoN wrote:
harpyieklein wrote:
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One thing is sure: agility is broken at this game -.-
right, on the other things you're wrong.

So you suggest that speed/bolt of lightening are a must and BoL/Vitality is better than HS/FA? No, just no.

The only way oz/dimu can be improved is by adding one more dog and adding vitality, but seriously I dont think adding hypno will make them SO MUCh better as hypno is a very very rarely used skill...

no, i wrote that brute is missing bolt/vitality, which means bolt OR vitality, str & agi is fine, the best combination. but having only 2 of 3 possible statsskills, it's obvious, that it can't be the best.

furthermore hypno is used less than cry of the damned, so if you have both cotd is used more often, but if you have few supers, hypno is used often enough, i know that since i'm a hypnobrutelover & owned illmove14, which by that time had 5 supers (which is 1 too much). also thebrutux with 5 casts hypno relatively often. the less supers a brute has, the more often hypno is drawn.

it's nothing statical like: hypno isn't used often. if you take a brute like was348, which also has been mine, it casts hypno very seldom, cause it has many supers to choose from which have a higher probability to be casted.

it's like i stated before, IF a "better" brute (in terms of winning most seeds vs. most opponents, not losing the most 20h fights Wink) exists, then it's like http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule with survival & less agility in favour of strength & without human hammer & cotd
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 18:13

Ok maybe you're right, except this


harpyieklein wrote:
no, i wrote that brute is missing bolt/vitality, which means bolt OR vitality, str & agi is fine, the best combination. but having only 2 of 3 possible statsskills, it's obvious, that it can't be the best.

There are brutes who have amazing stats without the stat booster skill and the other way round. Havint 3 stats booster doesnt mean anything about the brute quality. A brute like OzNoob (has 2 stats booster skills) is way better than LOTS of brutes around that have 3 stats boosters.
It is nearly impossible to find a brute who has incredible stats + 3 stats booster... For example Dipobrute has 3 stat boosters but overall hes not as good.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 18:16

NixxxoN wrote:
Ok maybe you're right, except this


harpyieklein wrote:
no, i wrote that brute is missing bolt/vitality, which means bolt OR vitality, str & agi is fine, the best combination. but having only 2 of 3 possible statsskills, it's obvious, that it can't be the best.

There are brutes who have amazing stats without the stat booster skill and the other way round. Havint 3 stats booster doesnt mean anything about the brute quality. A brute like OzNoob (has 2 stats booster skills) is way better than LOTS of brutes around that have 3 stats boosters.
It is nearly impossible to find a brute who has incredible stats + 3 stats booster... For example Dipobrute has 3 stat boosters but overall hes not as good.

that's called focus, there are brutes with different focuses, some on agi, some on str, some on vitality, some on 2 or all/none of them.

doesn't matter which focus a brute has, if it has only 2 statsskills, it's not as good as the same focused brute with 3. remember, here we're talking about the best of the best.


@lvl 600 str & agi:

dimlu: 180 + 429 = 609
kn2: 163 + 466 = 629

str & agi & spd:

dimlu: 180 + 429 + 113 = 722
kn2: 163 + 466 + 136 = 765

(my govavrmy: 769; spczpdygj: 776)

a brute only loses stats, if it's more vitalityfocused

so in our case, dimlu is a bit more speedfocused than kn2 and therefore it's losing str + agi stats, which are added to speed, without having the speedbooster "bolt of lightening".


so now when it comes to beating the most of the 999.999 brutetypes with most of the seeds, you probably won't need the highest of the highest agi, but more strength instead. nevertheless i'd guess kn2 & his clones are at least very close to the best of the best.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 20 Apr 2010, 23:53

well gova and Kn2 are the best imo, but in certain realistic lvls not in every lvl.
there are some with a huge agi and huge number of (str +agi +speed), but they will get there in lvl1050+ so we should ask this question in about 1-2 years, and then we will laugh about what we thought.

the funny thing Kn2 grows after lvl600 very fast in agi, and i mean realy fast if you compare him with gova, but gova will take over from lvl1300+ till another Point...
the Questions is how much more "agi and speed" does gova need to make him be able to compeat with the Strength of Kn2.


these ids could be one of the most powerfull in any lvl starting from lvl1050+ till endless lvl.
this is there stats at lvl 1300 and skills at 1050 (they mostly get all there Skills before lvl1050)

no-name ID:735379 HP:3266 STR:363 AGI:948 SPD:342
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=735379&lvl2=1050&lvl1=1300

no-name ID:788047 HP:3308 STR:348 AGI:951 SPD:334
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=788047&lvl2=1050&lvl1=1300

no-name ID:904187 HP:3242 STR:336 AGI:955 SPD:367
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=904187&lvl2=1050&lvl1=1300

no-name ID:740699 HP:3110 STR:361 AGI:946 SPD:372
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=740699&lvl2=1066&lvl1=1300
this one is realy Scary, he just need Hypnosis and he is the God of Mybrute affraid

and to compare the stats with Kn2 and gova at lvl 1300
ID:981275 HP:3404 STR:340 AGI:948 SPD:318
http://kn2-oicbuu6j.mybrute.com/cellule
without Sabotage, Flail, or Axe...

no-name ID:953998 HP:3350 STR:327 AGI:949 SPD:348
http://jiuz.mybrute.com/cellule (gova)

so if any one have this ID:740699, he must be the happiest Mybrute Player Ever in 2 years
Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Wed 21 Apr 2010, 06:18

ricotamanora wrote:

no-name ID:740699 HP:3110 STR:361 AGI:946 SPD:372
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=740699&lvl2=1050&lvl1=1300
this one is realy Scary, he just need Hypnosis and he is the God of Mybrute affraid

not only hypno, it needs untouchable badly, otherwise it will be hit much too often by implacable brutes....
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Wed 21 Apr 2010, 09:23

i saw a brute in ES with 24 skills at 200 with 156 agi
if not mistaken*
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Wed 21 Apr 2010, 14:06

harpyieklein wrote:
ricotamanora wrote:

no-name ID:740699 HP:3110 STR:361 AGI:946 SPD:372
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=740699&lvl2=1050&lvl1=1300
this one is realy Scary, he just need Hypnosis and he is the God of Mybrute affraid

not only hypno, it needs untouchable badly, otherwise it will be hit much too often by implacable brutes....

he will get it at 1070 but my reasearch for undiscovered Ids was basicly on lvl 1050.
http://labrutetools.fr.cr/inventaire.php?id=740699&lvl2=1070&lvl1=1300

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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Wed 21 Apr 2010, 18:03

al, i own that one in com, and i own a 165 str with 24 skills(including untouch+implace) at 200

and i agree, gova and kn2 are best at higher levels, at lower, DEV( as much as i hate to say it)
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Sun 25 Apr 2010, 06:38

Thanks for the high regards. Very Happy

I didn't realize that my new brute stirred controversy. geek

Gova and Dev were the benchmarks at level 610. I never intended to find the best, aka perfect brute, since 'best' and 'perfect' in this game is subjective. I just wanted a hyper agility brute with hypnosis that had a high probability to achieve BL without having to out level everyone.

Oh, there's a brute that smacks the bejesus out of Kn2 at level 610. Her name is Koerper4812. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Mon 26 Apr 2010, 11:24

kenichiro wrote:
Thanks for the high regards. Very Happy

I didn't realize that my new brute stirred controversy. geek

Gova and Dev were the benchmarks at level 610. I never intended to find the best, aka perfect brute, since 'best' and 'perfect' in this game is subjective. I just wanted a hyper agility brute with hypnosis that had a high probability to achieve BL without having to out level everyone.

Oh, there's a brute that smacks the bejesus out of Kn2 at level 610. Her name is Koerper4812. Wink


ken, your kn2 is ABSOLUTELY amazing, and rip brute is tough too, butimo your kn2 is better

too bad it have high target. so that brute can be the best ONLY with the people with huge ips



good luck on your bl, i think when he rach 500, he can jump from padaawn to bl in his FIRST tour
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 18 May 2010, 18:56

The best brute is vortex-maria Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 18 May 2010, 19:08

haha

no, he isnt the best
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 18 May 2010, 19:09

Ok xt, and who's the best?
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 18 May 2010, 19:16

NONE is the best, everyone gets defeated, closest to best at lvl 450-500 is kn2

before that level its dev, after that level (850) thfpn is
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 18 May 2010, 20:55

I'd have to agree, it all depends on the level, some brutes will dominate at lower levels but drop off as they level higher. others may be average to slightly above average until they hit level 300-400 or higher.
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PostSubject: Re: Which is the best brute in .com?   Tue 18 May 2010, 21:08

at 750, illmover start to get REALLY strong
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