Brutal Combo. Cheating or not ?

HongKongFui wrote:

what do you mean with cheaters? perfect time for me to clear something out: if somebody here either plays online- shooters, he may know what a REAL cheater is: a person that increases his skills mother nature gave him via a bot. we call them aimbots (he aims for you, headshot nearly everytime), wallhacks (no matter where on the map you stand, you know where each and every person stands or walks-some of them even with the possibility to shoot through the walls) and speedhacks (your char moves faster than the others) just to describe the most used noob- helpers...

I would NEVER use noobish crap like that, because when I go online I want to test my skills, winning is great, but not for the price to be a cheater...

but I did use brutal combo to let him create pupils for me... I see a really big difference between the two things :)

ok i just read that an did not want to answer in that thread.

IMO BC is OFCOURSE cheating.
what else should it be ?

you use a program that was NOT given by the owner of this game and it gives you an advantage.
Its just the same as an aimbot/wallhack. an aimbot/wallhack is a program NOT given by the owner of this game an it gives you an advantage (aim every shot / see throw walls).

i dont see any differences in here.

It's different for this game because I think we can ALL agree that without BC this game would be hella boring, who would want to see lvl 10-20's fighting all the time, atleast when your lvl 100+ you have pets/abilities/weapons...

In FPS's or MMO's i.e. when you cheat you have a considerable advantage to others while you normally would be equal, and that would be fine as those games are fine the way they are most of the time, but Mybrute is just broken without cheats tbh

Nasic wrote:

It's different for this game because I think we can ALL agree that without BC this game would be hella boring, who would want to see lvl 10-20's fighting all the time, atleast when your lvl 100+ you have pets/abilities/weapons...

In FPS's or MMO's i.e. when you cheat you have a considerable advantage to others while you normally would be equal, and that would be fine as those games are fine the way they are most of the time, but Mybrute is just broken without cheats tbh

aGrEe !

so vote for it

AlnicZ27 wrote:

Nasic wrote:

In FPS's or MMO's i.e. when you cheat you have a considerable advantage to others while you normally would be equal, and that would be fine as those games are fine the way they are most of the time, but Mybrute is just broken without cheats tbh

aGrEe !

for you ...
thats just true for those who use the cheats but there are MANY people who just play this game the way it is. (why else should they have >1300 wins ?)

there were not as many players as now but the game would be not dead

but you also have to agree to the fact that

Nasic wrote:

when you cheat you have a considerable advantage to others while you normally would be equal

. (oops you just said it )

or do you think its not an advantage to be level 432 while others are at level 30 ? ^^

well.. no more wars here

let's accept anyone's opinions like mine

hm i dont understand your opinion.

you agree that the game would be broken without cheats but you voted that BC is no cheat ??

question... are those your brutes in your sig vollauf?

vollaufdienuesse wrote:

hm i dont understand your opinion.

you agree that the game would be broken without cheats but you voted that BC is no cheat ??

To make it simple: Brutal combo is cheating, NECESSARY cheating :)

Brutes start to get fully developed at about level 300 and you need more than 2 years playing everyday and winning the 3 matches to reach level 40 without using cheats, LOL.

GOML wrote:

question... are those your brutes in your sig vollauf?

yes they are

and i know that i cheat

It is definately cheating, but unfortunately it became a part of the game a long time ago.

NixxxoN wrote:

vollaufdienuesse wrote:

hm i dont understand your opinion.

you agree that the game would be broken without cheats but you voted that BC is no cheat ??

To make it simple: Brutal combo is cheating, NECESSARY cheating :)

Brutes start to get fully developed at about level 300 and you need more than 2 years playing everyday and winning the 3 matches to reach level 40 without using cheats, LOL.

at least you do realize it is necessary.

kind of cheating of course...

but does that BC help me when my level 500 faces another level 500? no, BC doesn't make your brute better...

it's a matter of point of views :)

but vollaufdienuesse, your definition is strange either: talking of a program that is NOT from the developer and that gives an advantage... so it wouldn't be a cheat if I would hire 500 kids in 500 different countries, give them loads of money and in return all they do is the whole day: connect, create a pupil, reconnect, create a pupil... same effect but no program... is that cheating either?

Quote :

you agree that the game would be broken without cheats but you voted that BC is no cheat ??

sorry for german now: das ist wortklauberei, das weißt du aber selber, oder?

last but not least I agree that it's kind of cheating, but there's really a big difference between aimbots and brutal combo...

would you use an aimbot vollaufdienuesse?

vollaufdienuesse wrote:

GOML wrote:

question... are those your brutes in your sig vollauf?

yes they are

and i know that i cheat

funny that you're complaining about the use of BC then. I used to be against it, but that was when I wasn't using BC and wasn't certain I could get it to work anyway. not that I wanted to be "cheating" but it was the only way to level the playing field and have a shot at competing with those who were using BC. I had actually become quite frustrated and bored with the game before I got my own bot set up, after that the game became much more interesting again.

vollaufdienuesse wrote:

hm i dont understand your opinion.

you agree that the game would be broken without cheats but you voted that BC is no cheat ??

idk why but i got a feeling of it

but i guess some of those people who just started yet might vote it as cheating
SOME only imo

BC is cheating i think

cheat, yes... But it like it

me too!!
but i treat it not as a cheat.. i wonder why

IMO that BC users vote for "BC is not cheat"

GOML wrote:

vollaufdienuesse wrote:

GOML wrote:

question... are those your brutes in your sig vollauf?

yes they are

and i know that i cheat

funny that you're complaining about the use of BC then. I used to be against it, but that was when I wasn't using BC and wasn't certain I could get it to work anyway. not that I wanted to be "cheating" but it was the only way to level the playing field and have a shot at competing with those who were using BC. I had actually become quite frustrated and bored with the game before I got my own bot set up, after that the game became much more interesting again.

i was never complaining about it

ive just seen the post of HKF and wanted to start a discussion thread about it. i dont care if people cheat in this game because noone is interested if people cheat or not. not even MT care. otherwise they would have fixed it long ago ....

if noone cares -> its tolerated -> use it if you want to

HongKongFui wrote:

but vollaufdienuesse, your definition is strange either: talking of a program that is NOT from the developer and that gives an advantage... so it wouldn't be a cheat if I would hire 500 kids in 500 different countries, give them loads of money and in return all they do is the whole day: connect, create a pupil, reconnect, create a pupil... same effect but no program... is that cheating either?

thats the worst example i ever read
i think i would just laugh @ you and those kids

HongKongFui wrote:

kind of cheating of course...

but does that BC help me when my level 500 faces another level 500? no, BC doesn't make your brute better...

BC makes you better against players who DO NOT cheat.
not against those who cheat too.
an aimbot also does not help you against other aimbots ^^
its just senseless

HongKongFui wrote:

would you use an aimbot vollaufdienuesse?

no. easy reason:
those games dont tolerate cheaters and are not that "boring" like mybrute is in his "thought way"
and
i dont need it because i have the skill in those games

however, I thought you were clever

MyBrute doesn't have rules about making pupils so it doesn't exactly match with the definition of a cheater. I prefer not going to a very high level like wasusuge because the very high level brutes hit their opponent a lot of times. But having Brutal Legends with high levels make the game more interesting. I use MyBrute Manager and create one pupil for my brute/day, so I have a advantage compared to people who just do 3 fights/day. Watching level 20-50 fight isn't boring for me.

HongKongFui wrote:

kind of cheating of course...

but does that BC help me when my level 500 faces another level 500? no, BC doesn't make your brute better...

thats not exactly true i mean from the pupils made in bc at least 1 of the thousands of them will have great future
if you decide to lvl that that pupil(a many ppl does that) you will have an advantage during the fights
instead of staying with your handmade brute that wasnt that good

to me yes bc is cheating

i think its cheating it would be funner if it was no db and we could just fight and lvl by fights its more fair for other people with static ip and no bc

its cheating .....and i love to cheat