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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Wed 01 Sep 2010, 12:40

I think I will definitely keep him, but I'm not ready to part with any money just yet either Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 04:47

I have just reached level 20, what class should I choose?

The Pets option doesn't appeal, but Survival, Weapons and Ninja look pretty good.

Maybe it doesn't matter too much?

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 05:17

My opinion : weapon class Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 06:24

@ actual stage, you could select either of them, can't do much wrong Wink

working best:

ninja (spdbuild): sword mastery, combat prodigy, combo strike, survivor, 6 swords, chicken & shuriken
survival master (agibuild): vitality, first strike, counter attack, steel armor, iron skin
weaponmaster (rather spdbuild): 5 polearms, sword mastery, king of hammers, critical hit, phantom strike, disarm spell


now that you've bought gold, you should buy those statsbooster, the only thing (+stamina potion) you cannot buy with honors
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 06:32

So Ninja and Weapon work best with a speed build and Survival with a agility build. My brute is pretty balanced, but has less speed (at present) than agility and strength.

sam and I chatted just now and thought it might be a 50/50 choice between Ninja and Weapons. Maybe I will find a coin now :)

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 06:51

the coin is a little imbalanced, since ninja is definitely better @lower lvls & midgame, weaponmaster needs multiplicators & will have most effect in lategame


so you could choose ninja now & switch to weapons later, or just stick with ninja Wink

but you will need some luck to get backstab/quick dodge
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 08:01

3% of a speedy with combo is approx 3 times in 5 fights.
That didn't need so much luck. Razz

But the weapon class hits is ALMOST 100+ in every fights also. Wink

Better let him use a coin Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 08:03

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3% of a speedy with combo is approx 3 times in 5 fights.
That didn't need so much luck. Razz

misunderstanding....he needs luck to get one of the two skills now @lvl 20 Wink

the point is, that backstab is independant from your strength, therefore a lvl 20 ninja with backstab is much stronger than a lvl 20 weaponmaster with low str (if he uses backstab Wink)
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 08:08

harpyieklein wrote:
misunderstanding....he needs luck to get one of the two skills now @lvl 20 Wink
Got you and agree with that.

But...Do the coin still need? lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 10:19

I think I'm leaning towards Weapons over Ninja... but what is Survival like later in the game?

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 04 Sep 2010, 11:20

id go for weapon class if i were you
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 11 Sep 2010, 00:56

Here is my "Vortex Maria" on kok at level 20. I don't think he is very good. Should I reincarnate now, or wait a bit longer? What class should I choose if I keep him going?

http://facebook.kingofkungfu.koramgame.com/user/query?vsid=100001538556064

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 11 Sep 2010, 04:35

From his stat/hp, it's more than enough to keep him.
But that useless vital blow is so annoying for being a PERFECT one.

For me he's a keeper but your choice.

The class is not important for now and to soon to judge.
The book may say NINJA but you have 8 skills left to hope.

Make a good guess and go more...my 2 cents Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sat 11 Sep 2010, 05:11

I kept him going and chose Ninja, thanks sam :)

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Wed 22 Sep 2010, 06:13

Is this guy worth keeping?

http://facebook.kingofkungfu.koramgame.com/user/query?vsid=100001471160320

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Wed 22 Sep 2010, 06:30

yes, has enough options to go for....
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Wed 22 Sep 2010, 06:45

Ok... I'll ask again at level 28 :)

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sun 17 Oct 2010, 06:47

http://facebook.kingofkungfu.koramgame.com/user/query?vsid=100001416776396

Ok Kok experts, some more advice is needed please Very Happy

I'm at level 32 and I'm presently saving honor for the "Kiss of Death" skill. After that I'm not sure what I should do.

1) Try reincarnation pills to get an expert, or uber, Chang er
2) Save honor for the "Curse of Evil" skill
3) Save honor for the "Dragon Wave" skill (Not many seem to have this skill, why? It looks good to me)
4) Upgrade some weapons
5) Something else?

BTW, I discarded several 1%/2% level rings I had won in union events and just kept the best of them like: Shield wall(3%), Combo Strike(3%). That was ok for me to have done that I suppose?

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sun 17 Oct 2010, 11:55

first is first, curse of evil THEN kiss of death
reviving potion not so good sometimes
then
get uber pets

after both those steps, upgrade all your weapons
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sun 17 Oct 2010, 12:22

okay, so let's get through your questions....

1. you have high hp & healing potion, iron skin & steel armor

=> you have an agibuild

reviving potion is first choice, no doubt


2. you have bull rush & cluster bomb

=> dragon wave is no option, cause it gives far too few additional effect to bullrush
for chars with bullrush you should never buy dragon wave. for chars without bullrush, dragon wave might be an option for midlvlchars, others prefer kiss of death or curse of evil.


having an agibuild, one tends to buy curse of evil (= 6 hp damage/turn) instead of kiss of death (= 30 hp damage + 30 hp restore).

but you have a net, so buying kiss of death would disable your bomb & save your net.

nevertheless i'd go for curse

curse = best for slow chars with high hp & high armor / for long fights


bringing chang to excellent/uber is a good idea

BUT i'd wait & see what that halloween event will bring, before spending gold/honors

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Sun 17 Oct 2010, 12:33

forgot about haloween Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Mon 18 Oct 2010, 05:35

harpyieklein wrote:
okay, so let's get through your questions....

1. you have high hp & healing potion, iron skin & steel armor

=> you have an agibuild

reviving potion is first choice, no doubt


2. you have bull rush & cluster bomb

=> dragon wave is no option, cause it gives far too few additional effect to bullrush
for chars with bullrush you should never buy dragon wave. for chars without bullrush, dragon wave might be an option for midlvlchars, others prefer kiss of death or curse of evil.


having an agibuild, one tends to buy curse of evil (= 6 hp damage/turn) instead of kiss of death (= 30 hp damage + 30 hp restore).

but you have a net, so buying kiss of death would disable your bomb & save your net.

nevertheless i'd go for curse

curse = best for slow chars with high hp & high armor / for long fights


bringing chang to excellent/uber is a good idea

BUT i'd wait & see what that halloween event will bring, before spending gold/honors


Ok, nice analysis thank you harpy Very Happy

I think "Kiss Of Death" may still be better for me, here's why:

1) I dislike my Bomb. It is only useful if it gets used before the net, otherwise it is often very bad because it frees a pet.
2) Using this fight as a guide http://apps.facebook.com/kingofkungfu/?act=index.fshow&fuid=100001416776396&fid=2010101410000141677639612873714017780 My oppont had CoE and I looked at how much Hp I lost during the fight and it was 10 x 5 = 50 Hp. I thought this was a long fight (level 32 vs level 40 and I nearly won!) and if you consider that KoD would net 60 Hp and CoE would likely get me (If I had it in a long fight) around the same (6 x 10) I think the choice between the two may factor on the skill you forego. CoE gives up Bull Rush, KoD gives up Bomb.
3) Bull Rush has been a good skill for my brute so far in his career, Bomb has not.

Am I wrong in any of this?

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Mon 18 Oct 2010, 06:30

there will be fights of each kind, it's not clear which of the 2 configs will be overall better...
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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Mon 18 Oct 2010, 08:00

I'll probably end up with both sooner or later, then I can find out Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Advice for a noob   Wed 20 Oct 2010, 09:59

can't harm, curse will definitely be better vs. bosses 3, 9 & 10
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