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PostSubject: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 15 Aug 2011, 00:05

I just got a new untouchable brute, and its also my first, so im looking for some tips.
Are there any skills/ weaps that I should be really looking out for? And are there any I should be avoiding becuz it conflicts with dodging?

Also how does feline agility and untouchable directly affect ur dodge rate, like wats the specific mathematical equation?

thanks XD
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 15 Aug 2011, 01:53

Ofcourse you will need feline agility,without agi a untoach brute sux,you will need a goood weapon too,defence,maybe armor or shield+contre and a good disarm skill and it will be a very good brute :) Give us a picture with your brute :)
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 15 Aug 2011, 03:58

Rite now its only lvl 4, but so far this is its path

2. Untouchable
3. Endurance [Broadsword]
4. Endurance [Lance]

(in brackets is what I didn't choose)
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 15 Aug 2011, 04:04

take end at level 3 and lance at level 4 and pray for feline agility Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 15 Aug 2011, 06:15

NO

lance isn't so good

go same with endurace
and post a link of your brute


~you need feline agilite to be a good untouchable, some good weapons or better martial arts, and much agi. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Tue 16 Aug 2011, 23:36

It's not looking good so far:
5. Survival [speed]
6. Mammoth bone [speed]

I only chose mammoth bone because I didn't want the speed and I want to level up faster.
Looks like I'm gonna have to try a new path next rank. Should I try broadsword at lvl 3 or lance at lvl 4??
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Tue 16 Aug 2011, 23:46

Lance.
Lance is what opened Ma, feline, tons of agi,str, shield, and net for chunko, one of the best untouchables in the Fr muxxu
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Fri 19 Aug 2011, 23:57

Can someone answer the question how does untouchable influence agility? Is it a multiplier of feline agility?



Also, I want to share the destiny of this great brute I found. It has counter shield at a low lvl XD
(I don't want to start a different thread)
2. Sabotage
3. Counter
4. Shield
5. Lance
So what weapons should I be looking out for on this brute? And which should I avoid?
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sat 20 Aug 2011, 06:50

justsomerandom wrote:
Can someone answer the question how does untouchable influence agility? Is it a multiplier of feline agility?

Feline agility increase your agility
agility help you to hit more times, increase damage of trowing weapons (shurikens, piu, bol) and increase Dodges rate
Untouchable increase just Dodge rate, but very much



justsomerandom wrote:
Also, I want to share the destiny of this great brute I found. It has counter shield at a low lvl XD
(I don't want to start a different thread)
2. Sabotage
3. Counter
4. Shield
5. Lance
So what weapons should I be looking out for on this brute? And which should I avoid?


I won't take lance at 5
the best blocking weapons (in order) are Poele, Sai and Broadsword
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sat 20 Aug 2011, 14:08

sorry but wat is poele i play eng version
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sat 20 Aug 2011, 14:53

for an untouchable brute, i recommend shuriken, sai, knife... light weapons. And of course, martial arts... You loose a lot of agility if you hold a heavy weapon, so its not so good. Unless you go for a counter aswell.
I personally use a morning star in my counter brute... its an amazing weapon because it counters so much, it rarely ever gets countered/blocked and has good damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sat 20 Aug 2011, 16:44

poele (Frying pan in eng.) have the best blocking rate (95%), then Sai (90%), broadsword (82%)

(tests made by me in a long time)

and other weapons with good blocking rate are Morning star, Baton (both 55+%), and Epee <longsword> is arround 50%
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sun 21 Aug 2011, 09:18

NixxxoN wrote:
for an untouchable brute, i recommend shuriken, sai, knife... light weapons. And of course, martial arts... You loose a lot of agility if you hold a heavy weapon, so its not so good. Unless you go for a counter aswell.
I personally use a morning star in my counter brute... its an amazing weapon because it counters so much, it rarely ever gets countered/blocked and has good damage.

100% agree
the blocking rate is somthing and how a certain weapon acts with counter+ shield + entire set of skills and stats is another thing.
as for your top List of weapons:
Sai, Morningstar and Trident

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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sun 21 Aug 2011, 17:03

The Sai is amazing because of how much blocks, it disarms and the multihit.

ckl wrote:
poele (Frying pan in eng.) have the best blocking rate (95%), then Sai (90%), broadsword (82%)

(tests made by me in a long time)

and other weapons with good blocking rate are Morning star, Baton (both 55+%), and Epee <longsword> is arround 50%

For sure that the morning star blocks much more than 55%, im sure its close to the broadsword.
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 01:59

Is there any skill for dodging that is like counter for blocking? Like you dodge then hit back.
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 16:50

justsomerandom wrote:
Is there any skill for dodging that is like counter for blocking? Like you dodge then hit back.
yes its name in FR is "pugnace" , could be "hostality" in COM (not sure) it is the Skill on the right from 6th sence

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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 17:17

yes its called hostility, but doesnt hostility attack back after you get hit?
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 17:40

it attacks after you get hit,sometimes intercept and attack like 6th sense and after you dodge,it's a really useful skill Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 17:52

100% chance attack after a dodge?
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 19:50

no,I think when you get hit it's about 75 % and after dodging 50%...
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Mon 29 Aug 2011, 23:35

justsomerandom wrote:
100% chance attack after a dodge?
MaTiLL wrote:
no,I think when you get hit it's about 75 % and after dodging 50%...

not exactly No
it is as simple as "+ 33% chance for counter-attack"
wether it gets activated after getting hit , after you block an attack or after you dodge it , it doesnt matter at all.

now to the factors which can strengthen this Skill:

it gets activated more often if you have certain Skills along with it like counter , Shield and most importantly it depends on your weapons.
1- this Skill is already active with the LEEK and Tennis racket even if you don´t have the Skill itself.
2- now Hostality works mostly the best with the Br-Sowrd and Baton because these 2 weapons has a certain % (which is very high) of hostality already which will be added to the +33 % if you have the Skill.
- then comes all Heavy weapons like Stone hammer, Flail, Mamouth bone , club etc... and of course Lance and Trident.
- then comes all middle and short range weapons like Cimmetre, Hache, knife, Sai... etc
- for shoricken and such it remain 33 %

now to the Special case Hostality + untouchable:
usualy you can not dodge often without untouchable, but if you have untouchable you will be able to dodge (on average) at least more than 50% of the attacks which allow you to activate the +33 Counter-attack more often in one Fight because you simply get more chances to see it active. it just seem more than 33% but after watching more than 100 fights, it is 33% nothing more.
never the less it is a killer combination because you will be able to kill your Opponent without even attacking him, you just let him come to you and die Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Tue 30 Aug 2011, 01:23

untouchable + high agility + hostility + shield + counter would be so sick
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Thu 08 Sep 2011, 22:28

I haven't updated this thread in awhile, but here's the brute:
http://mybrute.muxxu.com/fight/19030779?chk=2cc1

Rate plz XD
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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Thu 08 Sep 2011, 22:54

justsomerandom wrote:
I haven't updated this thread in awhile, but here's the brute:
http://mybrute.muxxu.com/fight/19030779?chk=2cc1

Rate plz XD
very nice, one of the rare brutes with Br-Sowrd and still got a monster Set.
for his low lvl he is at least a 9.5/10
get him shield + counter and he is 9.8/10
he is a 10/10 if he gets shield + counter + Tornado + "indestructible" (increvable in FR) no idea what its name in COM

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PostSubject: Re: Tips for Untouchable Brute? "justsomerandom"   Sat 10 Sep 2011, 23:06

thnx for the rate, looking for shield and counter now, and also hostility XD

Ok i have completely new , unrelated questions now about hyper speed brute. i dont want to make a new thread so ill ask it here.
What would be the best weapons for a hyper speed brute? ( meditation, bolt of lightning , first strike)
Should i be avoiding heavy weapons?
And should i not get armour when offered because of -10% spd?
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